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The main reason I put Hawk HPS pads on recently when my fronts wore out was because they are advertised as low dust, and other members had reported them as such. <p>HOWEVER, my experience the past two weeks has been they are the most dust producing pads I have ever seen. <p>Yesterday, I spent an hour cleaning all the nooks and crannies of my OZs out by hand (they have lots of nooks and crannies). I Did not drive the car yesterday after that. <p>This morning, after only 30 min of Autobahn driving... <p>(stunningly beautiful here in Germany today)<br><IMG SRC="http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9020/1005385medium2zq.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>they looked like this... (I cleaned one section off for contrast). <p><IMG SRC="http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2143/1005389medium9xh.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Here is a video I shot of how much dust was produced in 30 minutes of driving...(yes, I had the camera with me, <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> )<p><A HREF="http://ss.otheron.com/rkelly/video/BrakeDust.MOV" TARGET="_blank">http://ss.otheron.com/rkelly/video/BrakeDust.MOV</A><p>So, wtfo? Others have reported them as being low dust. I had 2 weeks of normal driving to "bed them in" before Nurburgring. But from the day they were installed they have been producing dust like a freaking chimney... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

Try the Porterfields ... really! I think George posted up that Viva carries them now. If you need help, let me know. I have a connection that would be glad to ship overseas.<p>[ edit ]<p>BTW, read about how they were created/marketed. They started off strictly as racing pads, then realized they had street applications:<p><A HREF="http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/</A>
 

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easy fix for keeping brake dust off your rims... just wax your rims like you would your car and it'll keep the dust off, it worked with my saab and im doing the same to my R... that blows about the misadvertised pads<p>maybe you already knew about the little wax trick, but who knows, figured i'd toss it out anyways<br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>titaniumR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">easy fix for keeping brake dust off your rims... just wax your rims like you would your car and it'll keep the dust off, it worked with my saab and im doing the same to my R... that blows about the misadvertised pads</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Special wax for rims or the same that I use on the rest of my car?
 

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Wow that dust seems worse than the stock pads... My wheels stay clean for a good while (couple days) after a good cleaning, perhaps it is because I waxed them? And yes T5, same wax you would use on your paint.
 

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I like the HPS pads and have never had that problem. I do use wheels wax but don't think it helps the dust to not stick but IDK.
 

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Mainly a result of the higher speed driving IMO.<br>My rims are often black. Pagid or Volvo doesn't make a difference for that matter.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nikhsub1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow that dust seems worse than the stock pads... My wheels stay clean for a good while (couple days) after a good cleaning, perhaps it is because I waxed them? And yes T5, same wax you would use on your paint.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No dust issues with my Hawk pads and note I do use RejeX (<A HREF="http://www.corrosionx.com/rejex.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.corrosionx.com/rejex.html</A>) on my wheels twice a year. Very little dust as compared to my wife's V70R stock brakes and it is easily hosed off...<p>Regards,<p>Derek<br>
 

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Can't comment too much on dust yet, but these brake pads have come highly recommended to me. (<A HREF="http://www.perfectbrakes.com/products.asp?cat=3570" TARGET="_blank">http://www.perfectbrakes.com/products.asp?cat=3570</A> The red's are the Medium grade, the yellows are the best but not made for the R) I am awaiting my shipment. I plan on doing a review/opinion after Road Atlanta (May 5-6) on the brakes and the new Falken 451-Beta's as well.
 

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If you want to get rid of the brake dust, you have to go to the ceramic pads. I have Hawk ceramic pads on the front of my XC90 V8 with almost zero dusting. 60-0 stop distance is also improved on the XC with the ceramic pads.
 

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yea, the same wax as the paint, put a nice couple coats on those rims and you'll be good for a couple months or so... i usually wax mine about every 2-3 months
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>titaniumR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">easy fix for keeping brake dust off your rims... just wax your rims like you would your car and it'll keep the dust off, it worked with my saab and im doing the same to my R... that blows about the misadvertised pads<p>maybe you already knew about the little wax trick, but who knows, figured i'd toss it out anyways<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I use wax specifically for wheels (Wheel wax by American Racing from Tire Rack). It makes the clean-up WAY easier but I can't say it keeps the dust off any more than non-waxed rims. Maybe regular wax is better <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I had great success with Textar front pads for my MY02 T5. They dusted WAY less than the stock Volvo pads, for example the fronts took as long (sometimes longer) than the rears to start looking dirty. For me it was around 3 days of driving vs. 1 day with the stock pads.<p>I got my Textars from EST and as of early this year EST said Textar doesn't have pads for the R yet. I just searched their site and found a part # for the R. I'll check with EST to see if they are actually available. <p>I did the search on Textar's site here:<br><A HREF="http://213.69.58.45/4dcgi/0039/UK/SucheTyp" TARGET="_blank">http://213.69.58.45/4dcgi/0039/UK/SucheTyp</A><br>and found this:<br>9101879 Manufacturer / Model - Type / kW / ccm / Year built / KBA-No.<br>VOLVO / S60 / R 2,5 T AWD / 221 kW / 2521 ccm / 2003/03 -/ 9101879 <p>LTA<p><br>
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

I have the Hawk HPS pads and noticed an immediate differance in the amount of brake dust. Almost nil compared to the stock pads. I also wax my wheels at least twice a year and especially before going on the track. What ever brake dust I get comes off much easier if the wheel is waxed. Again for me, there is no comparison when it comes to brake dust between stock and the HPS pads, the HPS pads are better.
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... (RhaRdeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RhaRdeR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the Hawk HPS pads and noticed an immediate differance in the amount of brake dust. Almost nil compared to the stock pads. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I totally believe all of you (why I spent the extra for the Hawks, good reccomendations here), so do I just have defective pads? <p>These are 10 times worse than the stock pads. Even if I'm driving around town, not on the autobahn, dust is terrible.<p>I'll try the waxing thing, but I don't think that is the issue.
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I totally believe all of you (why I spent the extra for the Hawks, good reccomendations here), so do I just have defective pads? <p>These are 10 times worse than the stock pads. Even if I'm driving around town, not on the autobahn, dust is terrible.<p>I'll try the waxing thing, but I don't think that is the issue.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Kelly, I think you've got some weird chemical/radiological contamination going on at your base. There's the weird excessive corrosion on your exhaust, and rotors, plus now the excess dust. Something just ain't right over there...
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

Maybe you should contact Hawk with your complaint, the dust your experiancing is not typical from what me and other HPS owners see. What rotors are you running? If stock, maybe its a problem with the pads. Lets face it, the main reason for purchasing the HPS pads is less dust.
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

We, on the Audi A6 board, moslty are using slotted rotors, Zimmerman or Brembo(doesnt make difference in brand, i guess). Many other guys there been comparing it to plain rotors and are saying that the dusting has been greatly reduced. There are a few benefits in the slotted rotors. One of them includes better(in my experience, much better) braking in wet conditions, rain, snow. They also heat up less, more ventilation. Those are the benefits off the top of my head. Maybe you should research on that a little?<p>My current setup is frnt slotted (Brembo), rear plain OEM and Hawk HPS all around. I brake hard, some say crazy. I never waxed my wheels before and i do still get some dust, but it is not much of a concern. Maybe because i still use those 16" stock rims with the winter setup... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> heh<p>I, however do not have a big experience in brake pads and rotors. Too young yet... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>my $0.02, good luck! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had 2 weeks of <B>normal driving </B>to "bed them in" before Nurburgring.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You might want to try a more aggressive bed-in procedure, 10 hard stops from 60-5mph and a good cooldown before stopping. This really hardens off the new pads and in my experience leads to much less dust. <p><A HREF="http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedincontents.shtml" TARGET="_blank">This </A>is an excellent article describing the procedure, and its benefits...<p>Tom.
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... ("R" Kelly)

Ya, ya, ya...I'll help speed things along for you...<p>Wow, you got the new OZ's on the car. Kelly can we some different angles of them? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Hawk HPS -- Low Dust My A$$... (KillerB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KillerB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, ya, ya...I'll help speed things along for you...<p>Wow, you got the new OZ's on the car. Kelly can we some different angles of them? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I know you are ribbing me here, which is cool, but not sure about what exactly... are you saying this is all an excuse to post more pictures of my wheels? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> I would never do that...<p><IMG SRC="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7738/1005057medium2ww.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6320/1005069medium9uq.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1418/1005060medium1ay.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4782/1005061medium1ry.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3614/1005067medium1jr.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/391/1005051medium5wi.jpg" BORDER="0">
 
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