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I want to replace my stock shocks for Koni FSD to improve the ride. Has anyone tried them? According to Koni they should smooth out the ride and improve handling.
 

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i have always been under the impression that ride and handling are basically opposites, that you can have one but not the other.<p>someone please correct me if i am wrong
 

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You're wrong (to a point), but you have to have a <B>good suspension</B> to start with, Volvo ain't it.<br>ALso depends on your definition of "ride". A soft and sloppy car is not my idea of a "good" ride, that's scary to me and will make me tense
 

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i got ya... i come from muscle cars, so to us a good suspension is something that you can keep dead straight for 1/4 mile.<p>my camaro also wasnt bad in the twisties but the ride was hell.
 

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ANY Camaro is the ride from hell <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> stock OR modified <br>
 

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Koni claims that the shocks become stiff during hard turns and soft over road imperfections which would improve both ride and handling.<br>Sounds too good to be true. I wanted opinions from people that have tried them.<p>
 

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Hi there,<br>I had Koni FSDs fitted to my 2001 S60 T5 GT last month and have probably covered a couple of thousand miles on them since.<br>My car is a standard T5 running on 17" Tethys, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (225/45s here in the UK).<br>I was originally going to replace a knocking front shock with Volvo originals, however, looking at the price of a set of Koni FSDs and the good reports I thought I'd give them a shot. Whilst having them fitted I found out the knocking was coming from a badly split top mount, the original damper was fine!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Unfortunately, at this stage they had already cut the other strut to install the front shock. (FYI the rears are replacement units; the fronts are strut inserts and require the original units to be cut open. My Volvo dealer wouldn't do this work so I went to an independent specialist.)<p>Nevermind. <br>So far I have been impressed. It's always difficult to make a quantitative measurement when comparing new shocks to the old ones as they were... old. Ideally you would have an identical car on new factory shocks for comparison.<br>Anyway, I have noticed the ride is a lot better, there is more compliance in the suspension as it soaks up the bumps and cracks in the road. There is less crashiness and brittleness in the suspension that I use to get which would make me wince. <br>The only odd sensation is on certain motorways when you can get a jiggling movement as if the front and rear shocks are out of sync with each other going over bumps.<br>The extra compliance doesn't come at the expense of cornering either. The steering seems a little firmer and when hitting the bends the car doesn't wallow as you would expect it to. In fact going around corners the car seems to firm up but any bumps encountered whilst cornering are also dealt with easily and the car is not thrown off line as the old shocks did.<p>All in all I am impressed by the FSDs and can highly recommend <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> them to anyone in the market for new shocks. This is one of those rare occasions when the product seems to live up to the marketing hype. <br>I re-read the Tirerack.com test report on these shocks and concur with their findings.<br>I will keep you posted of any new discoveries.<p>Regards,<br>Mike<br>
 

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Thanks for the reply. I've been reading opinions on other forums (BMW, Mini) and most people concurr they work as advertised.<p>I assume all after market shocks (Koni, Blistein) have to be installed by a specialist or only the FSD?
 

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If you are a competent mechanic with all the right tools and facilities then there's no reason you couldn't do it yourself.<br>The specialist quoted me 3 hours labor to have these fitted which was more than ample time. Slpit 2 hours for the fronts and 1 for the rears.<br>The only scary part is probably cutting the original strut in order to fit the new inserts.<br>The supplied instructions are not the most detailed but have a look on Koni's website for more info.<br>
 

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Re: Has anyone tried the Koni FSD shocks?.... (BrunoS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BrunoS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to replace my stock shocks for Koni FSD to improve the ride. Has anyone tried them? According to Koni they should smooth out the ride and improve handling.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep, they sure do. Get 'em direct from Koni at <A HREF="http://www.koni-na.com/display.cfm?mt_id=1&mod_id=0&mak_id=46&submit=Continue" TARGET="_blank">http://www.koni-na.com/display...tinue</A><br> as it's $200 cheaper than IPD. But WORD OF CAUTION: be sure and KEEP YOUR SPRINGS AT STOCK HEIGHT. If you use lowering springs you run the risk of bottoming out the spring against the bump rubber, at which point the auxiliary oil path (secondary damping rate) is activated, and the car gets very squirrelly and unstable when you least want it to.<p>I've got the optional 'sport' suspension on my '01 T5 with the thicker sway bars (1 mm smaller diameter than IPD bars, 1 mm bigger than stock S60 T5) and the FSD really improves on-center road feel quite a bit. My wife's '00 S80 2.9 just has yellow Koni's on them, and the car feels like total mush after I've driven my S60 for a while.<p>so the FSD really works well. And yes, the ride IS softer over the rough tar strips and more responsive in the corners.<p>And there are no problems like with 4C and software upgrades.<p>You'll be happy with the FSD.<p>Oh, and by the way, you CAN bump up your tire pressure to the fully recommended 38 psi and still have a comfy ride with the FSD with the added bonus of better mpg with the higher tire pressure. <p>Best of luck. Tell me how you like them. I really enjoy mine.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mhon</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are a competent mechanic with all the right tools and facilities then there's no reason you couldn't do it yourself.<br>The specialist quoted me 3 hours labor to have these fitted which was more than ample time. Slpit 2 hours for the fronts and 1 for the rears.<br>The only scary part is probably cutting the original strut in order to fit the new inserts.<br>The supplied instructions are not the most detailed but have a look on Koni's website for more info.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, just make sure you cut the old strut ABOVE the weld for the lower spring flange, otherwise you'll have to buy another damper, just to cut it apart to put in the Koni insert. been there, done that. Don't make my mistake.<p>I'm surprised the Koni website doesn't show pix of the proper cut locations for each insert-a-strut.
 
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