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Being a man of superstition I had not seriously driven under the advanced chassis setting until last night.<br>I figured that if the car was running perfectly, why go and fool around with settings and end up causing damage to me 'delicate' investment. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>But last night, for poop and giggles, I decided to try the advanced setting and start to get on the car a bit. Afterall, I have 700 miles on her, so she is starting to get a bit more of a beating than before.<p>Anway, the ride was definitely more bone-jarring, as most of you already know.<br>But the throttle control into every gear was DEFINITELY much more aggressive. I found myself pogoing over a set of bumps while letting the clutch out from a rolling start a couple times.<br>The car certainly felt a lot more aggressive, I was just wondering if there are any findings of fact that the rough ride of the advanced setting is worth the internal bleeding for faster launches when gettin her done. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>The tach did seem to wind out more quickly, so that would have to confirm my assumption. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>RKelly, are your times typcially conducted in advanced?
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Eric_H)

IMO the sport setting is faster for the longer runs.
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Eric_H)

In addition to the stiffer chassis settings, enabling "advanced" actually remaps the throttle position so in essence, you are applying the throttle at an increased rate per unit of pedal travel. Yes, the car will launch differently, the RPMs will increase more rapidly and you will actually think that you are going faster than in comfort or sport mode because the throttle position you are accustomed to is now more in advanced. <p>The funny thing about advanced is you dont go any faster, you just get there quicker! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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On the 2004 GT (may be common across all years/tranny types) the "S" button (Sport mode for throttle/timing) comes on automatically when Advanced is activated, however you have to turn "S" on specifically in Comfort or Sport mode every time you start the car. <p>The "S" button controls the throttle reponse and timing I believe. <p>I thought I saw a post on how this may be a tad different on the 2006 models.<p>Hope this helps!<br>-Ben
 

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Gotcha. I was not sure. I know that is how it works for the GTs. If the MT does not have that feature then it must be part of the 4C for the 6MT.<p>That will teach me to pretend I know something! <p>That button makes all the difference in the GT, especially with the new ECU.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>-Ben
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO the sport setting is faster for the longer runs. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Interesting! So for 1/4 mile runs use advance then <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> and sport for topend runs.
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Volvarine)

If you want to pick up speed the Advanced is nice but the whole chassis is way to hard on many roads. Often the bouncing of the suspension slows you down with cornering and sometimes it shows less performance under braking.<p>For 1/4 mile I wonder if comfort isn't the best setting..<p>All the Advanced TB setting does is reduce travel from 87% full stroke to something like 75% half stroke. <br>
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to pick up speed the Advanced is nice but the whole chassis is way to hard on many roads. Often the bouncing of the suspension slows you down with cornering and sometimes it shows less performance under braking.<p>For 1/4 mile I wonder if comfort isn't the best setting..<p>All the Advanced TB setting does is reduce travel from 87% full stroke to something like 75% half stroke. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>springs and sways were the perfect remedy for this on my R.
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Johann)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Johann</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to pick up speed the Advanced is nice but the whole chassis is way to hard on many roads. Often the bouncing of the suspension slows you down with cornering and sometimes it shows less performance under braking.<p>For 1/4 mile I wonder if comfort isn't the best setting..<p>All the Advanced TB setting does is reduce travel from 87% full stroke to something like 75% half stroke. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>It makes sense, but I am talking drag racing on a track with nice tar, so advance should be fine, right? What will get me of the line the quickest for a 1/4 mile run?<p>1. Advance mode with SDTC completely off<br>2. Advance mode with SDTC reduced<br>3. Advance mode with SDTC on<p>or sport mode.<br>
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Volvarine)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvarine</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It makes sense, but I am talking drag racing on a track with nice tar, so advance should be fine, right? What will get me of the line the quickest for a 1/4 mile run?<p>1. Advance mode with SDTC completely off<br>2. Advance mode with SDTC reduced<br>3. Advance mode with SDTC on<p>or sport mode.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sport or comfort. DSTC off (just in case you manage to break the tires, but on a high-grip situation on most strips, that'll never happen!) The softer suspension, technically, would be better for launch. Personally, I disable 4C which ends up in a sport-like mode.
 

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Don't beat me for this question, but what is the 'completely off' sequence again...and again...and again. lol <br>I know the reduced is just hold for a couple secs...but off?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Eric_H</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't beat me for this question, but what is the 'completely off' sequence again...and again...and again. lol <br>I know the reduced is just hold for a couple secs...but off?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>off is 5 consecutive pushes.<p>i still think advanced should net you the best 1/4 mile times. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Has anyone found the advanced chassis setting makes the car faster? (Volvarine)

The "sport" S button on the GT's only changes the shift points. Not the timing or throttle response.
 

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I ran 1/4 miles in Advanced and Comfort. I had previously posted that my best time was in Comfort but actually it was Advanced (brain fart <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> ). I ran 13.8's in both but my 13.6 was in Advanced. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvarine</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok cool! Now at what revs shall I launch her at?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depending on how much you like your clutch. I dumped mine around 4K, mainly just kept the turbo spooled by reving between 2K to 5K. If you hold the throttle at a constant rpm then the turbo won't spool (or so I have been told).
 

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Nice times! So i must play with the throttle when staging staying above 2k.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Volvarine at 6:36 AM 4-12-2006</i>
 

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Wow! Great times! 13.6 for stock! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I have an air strip 30 minutes away that has open drags every weekend during spring/summer/fall.<p>I was thinking about taking the R there once or twice this fall. Summer would kill the turbo.<p>I was just curious to some of this stuff so I do not have to abuse the car 6-7 runs just to determine the best set up.<p>And, I have noticed that some guys just rev the engine prior to launch while others do so keeping the revs variable.<br>
 
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