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Graco Baby Seat Question

Guys:<p>Considering getting a Graco Step 1 Safe Seat (rear facing only up to 30lbs). Anyone have this seat? If so, any comments on fit?<p>Danke!
 

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I recently purchased Graco SnugRide Metropolitan and it feels a bit bulky fitting in my R. We placed the infant carseat behind the passenger side. When securing your carseat onto the base and lowering the handle bar for proper position for driving, you need to move the front seat quite a bit forward to allow the handle bar to shift down. Otherwise, the backrest of the front seat will get in the way. Once you're done lowering the handle bar, you can then push back the front seat a little so that someone can fit in the front seat. Again, this is with the Graco Metropolitan and I would imagine it would be similar with the Step 1.<p>The built quality of the Metropolitan is top notch and I have no regrets for purchasing it. My wife wants a Bugaboo (which is insane amount of $$$) to accompnay it.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xtremeboard</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently purchased Graco SnugRide Metropolitan and it feels a bit bulky fitting in my R. We placed the infant carseat behind the passenger side. When securing your carseat onto the base and lowering the handle bar for proper position for driving, you need to move the front seat quite a bit forward to allow the handle bar to shift down. Otherwise, the backrest of the front seat will get in the way. Once you're done lowering the handle bar, you can then push back the front seat a little so that someone can fit in the front seat. Again, this is with the Graco Metropolitan and I would imagine it would be similar with the Step 1.<p>The built quality of the Metropolitan is top notch and I have no regrets for purchasing it. My wife wants a Bugaboo (which is insane amount of $$$) to accompnay it.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have the Safeseat, and xtremeboard is pretty much right on with his comments. The V has a little more legroom in the rear than the S, so you should be able to live with it. My wife does not complain about it, but we are used to having smaller vehicles.
 

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Re: Graco Baby Seat Question (needsdecaf)

As an aside, all of the Snugrides are basically the same seat. The difference in pricing comes from the combination of "add-on" features in the padding and cover materials, etc. From a safety standpoint though they're all exactly the same regardless of price.<p>Don't know much about the Safe Seat but we were very happy with our Snugride (and will definitely employ it again when #2 comes along someday). You can't beat the tote-a-bility of the detachable seat with an infant - especially when you couple it with a Snap-N-Go.<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As an aside, all of the Snugrides are basically the same seat. The difference in pricing comes from the combination of "add-on" features in the padding and cover materials, etc. From a safety standpoint though they're all exactly the same regardless of price.<p>Don't know much about the Safe Seat but we were very happy with our Snugride (and will definitely employ it again when #2 comes along someday). You can't beat the tote-a-bility of the detachable seat with an infant - especially when you couple it with a Snap-N-Go.<p>-Eric</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks for the help, guys. The Safe Seat is basically the same as the SnugRide, but slightly larger, so it can take up to 30 lbs, instead of 22-25. Nice, considering I am 6'2" and my wife is 5'11" but I was born under 6lbs so you never know! It also has a nice dial adjustment on the base so that you can dial in almost any base seat angle to make it fit the car well. <p>
 

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Sweet!<p>Joe, the one caveat to the bigger seat that you and your wife should keep in mind is that you may not actually want to carry them around like that at 30lbs! lol At 16 mos, our daughter is in the 100th percentile for height (she's 33 inches) and although she's actually not heavy at ~28 lbs - she's still in the 85th percentile and there's still no way I could lug her around in a carrier that weighs another 6-8lbs - nor would she put up with being stuck in there like that!<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sweet!<p>Joe, the one caveat to the bigger seat that you and your wife should keep in mind is that you may not actually want to carry them around like that at 30lbs! lol At 16 mos, our daughter is in the 100th percentile for height (she's 33 inches) and although she's actually not heavy at ~28 lbs - she's still in the 85th percentile and there's still no way I could lug her around in a carrier that weighs another 6-8lbs - nor would she put up with being stuck in there like that!<p>-Eric</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I hear ya! The Safe Seat is rear-only so as soon as he / she gets to one year, it's going in the attic for storage and being replaced with a forward facing seat........Recaro anyone? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I like the idea of the 30 lbs / larger size as my nephew, who was actually the smallest compared to his brother and sister at birth, was over 23 lbs before one year. Most rear-only seats are only rated to the 22-25 lb range. So while it's unlikely we'll ever be carrying around a 30lb baby plus carrier, I like to know I won't have to switch to the front facing seat early!
 

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LOL...our daughter's feet were crawling uncomfortably up the backseat by the time she hit 11 months. When our pediatrician saw how tightly she fit, she actually suggested we turn the seat around (despite not yet hitting the 1 yr mark). She just said, "Look, we'd all be better off if we were facing backward in an accident, but does that look safe or comfortable to you?"<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the help, guys. The Safe Seat is basically the same as the SnugRide, but slightly larger, so it can take up to 30 lbs, instead of 22-25. Nice, considering I am 6'2" and my wife is 5'11" but I was born under 6lbs so you never know! It also has a nice dial adjustment on the base so that you can dial in almost any base seat angle to make it fit the car well.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You might want to consider mounting the seat in the center position where there's (unfortunately) no LATCH. I have a SnugRide that was used with child #2 mounted behind the driver, and the year of use in that position left a small but permanent indentation in the back of the driver's seat--and I'm only 5'7" and I didn't have the seat that far back. <p>Now I have it mounted in the center for child #3 and it fits in there quite well--no contact with the seat backs and quite secure with the center belt holding it in. The center position is recommended anyway for safety reasons. I don't really have a choice anymore as I transport 3 kids in the back seats every day. A Graco, a Britax and the integrated booster--can't beat it. And my 4-year-old is in the perfect position to keep the baby entertained. Which he does quite well. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pelle Schultz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... left a small but permanent indentation in the back of the driver's seat...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Did you have any rubber protection of some sorts underneath the carseat? I suppose placing even a towel would help.<p>Also, I am currently using the LATCH provided behind the passenger side. My only concern is that you have to force the latch in between the lower and mid backrest to push it through. I hope this doesn't damage the leather.<p>As an aside, does anybody have a Bugaboo stroller? Unfortunately my wife wants a Bugaboo stroller, which means more $$$. I still don't see why you need to spend $$$ on a stroller. I admit it's nice and all, but I mean, it's a stroller. The only reason that I consider buying it is that she carried the child for 9 months and I think she deserves what she wants. Of course, if it had a turbo charged 2.5L engine, I would quickly reconsider. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xtremeboard</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>As an aside, does anybody have a Bugaboo stroller? Unfortunately my wife wants a Bugaboo stroller, which means more $$$. I still don't see why you need to spend $$$ on a stroller. I admit it's nice and all, but I mean, it's a stroller. The only reason that I consider buying it is that she carried the child for 9 months and I think she deserves what she wants. Of course, if it had a turbo charged 2.5L engine, I would quickly reconsider. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>We just got a MacLaren Techno XT stroller to replace the bulky Graco MetroLite. The name makes it sound so fast and sporty. I only wish it's name was "turbo" instead of "techno". LOL
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xtremeboard</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As an aside, does anybody have a Bugaboo stroller?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For ~$1,000 you can't get a better stroller. Personally, I think it's overkill, but its still a great stroller. My wife really wanted one and I gave her the go-ahead, but thankfully she talked herself out of it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> We're very happy with our Peg Perego Pliko P3. The only reason we chose it over a Maclaren (which we had for a little while) is because it has a little tray in front for our daughter to hold a cup, nosh, etc.<p>-Eric
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> The only reason we chose it over a Maclaren (which we had for a little while) is because it has a little tray in front for our daughter to hold a cup, nosh, etc.<p>-Eric</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's why I'm going with the Graco. It's one of the few out there with the "kid tray". Great for Cheerios. <p>$1,000 for a stroller?!? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> If my wife asked for that, I'd be on the phone to IPD the next day!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xtremeboard</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Did you have any rubber protection of some sorts underneath the carseat? I suppose placing even a towel would help.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Um...yes. The indentation in the <b>back</b> of the <b>driver's</b> seat is from the front edge (right behind the baby's head) of the Graco...not the bottom. Even at my shorter-than-average-male height there isn't enough clearance to fit the seat behind me without it contacting the back of the driver's seat. That's not a problem when it's in the middle.<p>I always use a mat underneath any child seat to minimize damage to the leather, although it's virtually impossible to prevent any marks from being left. My leather still looks pretty good, considering I've had two child seats back there since almost day one.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pelle Schultz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Um...yes. The indentation in the <b>back</b> of the <b>driver's</b> seat is from the front edge (right behind the baby's head) of the Graco...not the bottom. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've got that too. It's a permanent mark on the back of the driver's seat from the rear-facing seat rubbing for about 9 months of use. Repeated Lexol hasn't fixed the marred Nordkap leather.<p>
 

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Just recently ordered the Eddie Bauer leather convertible car seat for our son. It matches the Nordkap leather perfect and gets great reviews. Love that it can convert to up to 80 lbs. Something to consider when you go front-facing. I think it can do rear facing too though.<p> <IMG SRC="http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/dreamtimebaby_1904_40781034" BORDER="0"><p>Also picked up the car seat protector mat at Wal-Mart. They have a few options online, but our local store carried this one...<p> <IMG SRC="http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/73/52/82/10/0073528210087_215X215.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>As far as strollers go...we absolutely 100% subscribe to the Phil & Teds design, out of New Zealand. Available at quite a few shops here in the U.S. We looked at 100 strollers and we bought this before our son was born, used it through infancy, he's 1 1/2 years old and we still use it today. Good to 40 lbs. I think. Awesome swiveling front wheel, tube tires, good for on or off road, good storage, easy to push..can jog if you want...love it!<p> <A HREF="http://www.philandteds.com/cat.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.philandteds.com/cat.htm</A> <p>...we got teh E3 Exlporer, pictured below:<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.joggingstroller.com/assets/product_images/alternate/300/100173BLACK0000.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xtremeboard</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Did you have any rubber protection of some sorts underneath the carseat? I suppose placing even a towel would help. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You can roll up a towel, or what the local Fire Dept does around here is cut pieces of foam tubing (like kids use in the pool). They actually use it to level the seat, but it ends up being a good way to protect the leather from the bottom of the seat.
 

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With the Graco seat in an S60, if you are over 6' and your wife is 5'11", there is no way either of you will be comfortable in the front when that thing is in the back! My car is only for optional use, and the baby has to go behind the passenger seat. And I think you'd have to be under 5'2" to sit in that seat in front of it.<p>I sure hope the V70 is lots better because that's what we're getting for my wife when we have to put 2 kids back there.<p>As for strollers, even at $800+, the Bugaboo is the "in thing" in NYC. Absolutely everyone there has one, such that I felt like a plebe with my Italian designed Ingelsina (only $300 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> ). Which I still love because of how easily it folds and unfolds.<BR><BR>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xtremeboard</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently purchased Graco SnugRide Metropolitan and it feels a bit bulky fitting in my R. We placed the infant carseat behind the passenger side. When securing your carseat onto the base and lowering the handle bar for proper position for driving, you need to move the front seat quite a bit forward to allow the handle bar to shift down. Otherwise, the backrest of the front seat will get in the way. Once you're done lowering the handle bar, you can then push back the front seat a little so that someone can fit in the front seat. Again, this is with the Graco Metropolitan and I would imagine it would be similar with the Step 1.<p>The built quality of the Metropolitan is top notch and I have no regrets for purchasing it. My wife wants a Bugaboo (which is insane amount of $$$) to accompnay it.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>We too had a metropolitan, and, though it spnet 99% of its life in my wife's passat, it worked out great. this was especially true because the 1% of its life it spent in my car, the extra base that we purchased was already there fore it, waiting; no de-LATCHing and re-LATCHing. We also purchased the matching graco stroller that the metroplitan can lock right into during the infant/basket carrying months. now, at 20+ months, we just use it as a regular stroller. having the tray and cupholder for the kid, as well as a couple of pockets at the push handle is key. We saw the MacLaren's and the bugaboo's. they're real nice but we could not see what made them worth the $$$. (If we were still living in NYC doing the mass transit thing, the lightweight MacLaren would, of course, be standard issue.)<p>a couple of important notes: first, location of seat. though the rear middle is, in theory, the safest place, we were advised by the police department that it involves compromises not worth the risk. one compromise is that the LATCH anchors are not set up for it, so you're altering the stress physics that the seat and tether were designed for. another is that in a head on collision, the center armrest can shoot down at the infant's face at the same time that the seat is probably rebounding up in the opposite direction. for both of these reasons, and because the majority of side impacts occur on the driver's side, we put ours behind the passenger seat.<br>Second, positioning of infant seat and handle. we were told that the handle needs to be in the down position - pointed toward the floor - while driving, and that there needs to be ROOM FOR THE HANDLE TO CLEAR THE SEATBACK OF THE FRONT SEATS. this is because the seats are designed to move through a certain range of motion in the event of a collision; they rise up and form a virtual cocoon against the seatback of the back seat, thereby protecting the baby on all sides. if the handle is caught on the seatback of the front seat, when the force carries the infant up against the straps of the seat, it intensifies the pressure against their chest.<p>maybe someone else knows otherwise, but i figured i'd contribute it for what it's worth. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pktojd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>a couple of important notes: first, location of seat. though the rear middle is, in theory, the safest place, we were advised by the police department that it involves compromises not worth the risk. one compromise is that the LATCH anchors are not set up for it, so you're altering the stress physics that the seat and tether were designed for. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you are referring to using the outboard LATCH anchors to secure the seat in the middle, then I believe this. However, if you are referring to the ability to properly anchor the seat in the middle, then I do not. The safe ride seat is designed to be used either with LATCH anchors or a seatbelt. It has a built in tensioner and lock for seat belt use, and is perfectly safe doing so (remember not all cars have LATCH). Volvo's recent supplement on installing child seats does not discourage middle seat placement IIRC. <p>Interesting about the center arm-rest, never thought of that. I would think, though, that the positioning of the seat would block the movement of the armrest, as it is pretty tall. <p>Nevertheless, I am going to ask to take one of the floor model seats outside and fit it in the car as a check.
 
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