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Just thought I would pass on my product experiences and sources for detailing products. I have ordered from all these companies, and the products I recomend I have used and feel are the best. Considering my fanaticism about cleaning, I have tried them all, and Promise, these really are the best. <p>Ok first some good sources, I order from Top of The Line detailing supplies quite often. THe site is <A HREF="http://WWW.Topoftheline.com" TARGET="_blank">WWW.Topoftheline.com </A> and they have the best deal on the P21S car care kit I have seen, currently 40 dollars. P21S offers the best wheel cleaner I have used, its safe on wheels, has no harsh acids, will not cause damge, etc. The precleaner is one of the better ones I have used, has no abrasive polishes and can be used every day if you please. The only thing I would add to this kit is a claybar from a company like Pinnacle or something, it works wonders. Just quickly, my experience with Meguires, mothers, and all the other cheapo wheel cleaners is that they ended up causing damage to my wheels. I sprayed them on and in one year they had eaten the clearcoat finish off two sets of my wheels. They didnt do this to the somehow very durable OEM wheels, but they did it to a set of Borbets and MilleMiglias. I replaced both sets with new ones and started only using P21S on them, I have never had this problem since. This company offers two waxes with there own name on them, mind you these are not cheap generics, they are actually rebaged Pinnacly wax. That is even not the right word for it, they have Pinnacle make them a special wax to their specifications. The better of the two is known as Trade Secret and is the best deal in wax I have ever seen. Its one of the best waxes I have ever used. Its drawbacks are that it does not have the Longevity of P21S and Pinnacle Souveran wax has a richer deeper shine. My Ranking goes like this, Souveran is the best looking there is, TOL is the best looking for the money, second only to Souveran, and P21S lasts the longest, most practical for most people. I feel these three waxes put all others to shame, including Zymol, Meguires, Mothers, etc. Zymol offers some good premium waxes, but Souveran beats them all and the others are as good and cost less. Now of course this is my opinion, but hey, Souveran is currently what Ralph Lauren Uses on his concourse car and has won many times at pebble beach. <p>Other Companies I like for ordering are <A HREF="http://www.autosupermart.com" TARGET="_blank">www.autosupermart.com</A> which has a good selection of products, one of the most complete I have seen, along with offering another favorite of mine. They sell the Imperial Leather line of leather care products. This stuff, as expensive as it is, is by far the finest leather care product I have ever used. Its amazingly better than anything else I have used, and again, I have tried them all. If you have been looking for something that will soften your leather seats, repair that sundamage-ie. dryed out leather, this is it. Obviously it wont repair cracks, but it will soften up that dried out old leather, and preserve new leather so its like new in appearance for ever, and soften it to a level it never was before, accept maybe when it was still on the cow. <p> <A HREF="http://www.autodetail.com" TARGET="_blank">www.autodetail.com</A> These guys offer the the best prices I have seen on Zymol stuff, I like to use Zymol Seal, Hd-Cleanse, Strik, detail aerodynamic wax, and there tyre preserve and protection stuff. I like These products because they are all natural, contain no silicones, smell good, clean up easily, and work better than anything. I will say that nothing will shine an interior like Armorall, but that stuff isnt good for the car, will discolor it, and I think attracts dust. The Zymol stuff is all natural, protects and enhances all the materials in the car, preserves them, and has a good enough shine. Plus for those of you, like me, who dont like a shine, simply wiping excess off afterwords will remove any shine. The Zymol protectant is nice because it will replensih any of the natural oils in the vinyl and plastic of the interior. It offers some UV protection, and if you want, will give that nice shine so many show cars get. <p>I think that about sums it up, Im sure there are other good online stores, some of you may even have good local stores, but these are the ones I use. The products I recomend do command a premium, but come on, dont be cheap, you spend a lot more money on your car, keep it looking like new with these comparably cheap products. I can tell you that a new paint job, leather seat replacement, rubber trim replacement, etc will easily cost more than the price of these products, and the car will look better than new for as long as you own it. The only thing better would be a force field, like in star wars or something, to keep rocks and bugs from hitting the car and doing damage. Again, in there respective areas, the products I have mentioned I have found to be far superior to anything else I have used. My experience, for those unwilling to spend the money on the best, is that Meguires offers a good cheaper alternative as does 3M, but neither is nearly as good as the ones I mention. Some like mothers, I dont like mothers products much, I think Turtle wax and the like are about as cheap as it gets and should not tough a volvo anywhere. <BR><BR>
[Modified by pj's 850, 6:36 PM 11-15-2002]
 

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Thanks for the info man!<p>For car waxes/polishes I've tried quite a few, Zymol, Mcguires, Mothers, Volvo OEM..<p>the best so far is Zaino, it lasts the longest, shines the brightest too. Gives a deep wet look to the car that lasts for atleast 1/2 year. You can totally tell its there on the car especially when it rains, the rain beats off the car like water on a duck's back.
 

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Yeah, No doupt that Zaino is good, many people like it, and it def offers the best rain protection. However I dont like it better than real Carnuba wax, I like what carnuba wax does to paint, it looks so nice. Now again, this is not really important, not like any of us are showing at Pebble Beach, but look at what these guys use, Pinnacle and Zymol, none use Zaino, that tells me that they also feel that nothing really shines like Carnuba wax does. One thing I have done is put on a polish-like Zaino-on first, then followed that up with carnuba. Then I get the lasting protection of Zaino with the wonderous deep shine of carnuba wax.
 

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Re: Good product Sources! (pj's 850)

yeah, maybe that wax does shine better<p>but they're showing off <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> so they don't need something that lasts for more than a week (or even a few days..) Well normal people (like us) isn't going to wax their cars every week so, maybe that wax isn't the best way to get a good shine for a road car. Would look awesome tho, if you have time to wax your car more often than I could
 

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Re: Good product Sources! (pj's 850)

Nice! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>You hit the nail right on the head with the fact these products are so much cheaper than a new paint job or redoing leather seats! I'm in total agreement with you.<br>The worst thing you can do to your car nothing.
 

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Thankyou, hey, I saw a picture of a 94-5 850 with leather seats that only proved my point so well, his driver seat was absolutely destroyed. The leather was all ripped up, cracked, in just horrible shape. My car has about 20 grand less miles and is a year or two newer, but my seats look a lot better than his do, I think cuz I take care of them. Like I said about my mothers car, she has had cleaner and conditioner applied since new and they still look almost new, I think they would look new if I was able to clean and condition them with my Imperial products every two weeks or so from day one, but I have not been able to do that. I guess I really dont want too, not like I benefit, I just like to see cars well taken care of. I also saw a guy with an older lexus, I think an LS400 or something like that, his seats were also very torn up and dried out. I actually took a look at them, felt them, was amazed at just how bad the leather had gotten. I asked the kid about the car, he told me that the car was no garaged, but was never left out for long periods of time, he simply never applied any sort of leather protection or ever cleaned the seats. The leather hardened it parts, cracked, and eventually got much worse. I guess the current condition came from him picking at the leather, but none the less, they were in bad condition.<p>I have to say, it really gets me how cheap people are about car care. If you dont have the time or energy, then I say pay someone else to do it for you, to clean the car inside and out, do it 4 or more times a year, its really not a big expense. I believe places around here charge between 20 and 60 dollars depending on the level. I know that many have older cars or didnt buy them new, so they may not be able to afford such extravegances, but for the rest of you, those with brand new or almost new, and who can obviously afford 200 dollars a year, then whats the hold up. I dont see any reason why people shouldnt take care of there cars. What gets me most is those who get a brand new M-B S class or BMW 7 series every two or three years, they will wash the car, thats about it, vacuum the inside or apply conditioners, that never happens. I remember once having my car worked on at the dealer, I was sitting around waiting for it to be done. This women had a brand new S60 loaded up, she had it in for its first scheduled maintenance, she was asking me about my car. Making obvious judgements and comments regarding the fact that I have an older volvo(1996) and hers was newer and nicer(2001). It was sorta bugging me, anyway, they came in to tell her the estimated cost, something like 150 dollars I think, and she had them only do the oil change. I got my bill, similar sorts of maintenance, routine stuff, I footed the bill no problem, payed for it all, took care of my car. I gave her a look, you could tell she knew what I was thinking. I mean come on, how can you buy a 35,000 dollar car and not afford to pay the 150 dollars for maintenance.
 

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Re: Good product Sources! (pj's 850)

Thanks for the fantastic suggestions, and especially for incuding the links above. <i>Much</i> appreciated. And besides, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who is obsessive-compulsive about keeping my car clean! Ha ha. You guys prove that to me time and time again. It's nice to see people even more vigilant than I am about hunting down the latest-and-greatest when it comes to car-care products! <p>I must admit, despite the beautiful winter wonderland I woke up to this morning (our first true snow accumulation), my first thought was not of making snowmen. No. It was concern for my car. I thought "Here comes the <i>salt!</i> Eeeeek!" and "I'll have to scrape my windshield and windows <I>carefully</I> so as not to damage any of the seals!" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> Let the battle to keep my car rust-free begin! (This is my first winter with it...)
 
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