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And the car feels like new... <p>I've given Tasca Volvo a <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> before, they get another one. Todays venture involved an ECM update. Thanks to JRL for the follow-up on his post regarding a stutter issue a few weeks ago. I chased this damn stutter all over, turns out there was no mechanical problem.... I guess thats good. Anwyay:<p>-I was in and out in 25 minutes on a busy monday morning.<br>-As always, free car wash and coffee (that isnt awful)<br>-They turned up my heated seats at no extra cost<br>-They charged me for .75 hours, despite the 1hour standard <br>-The tech came out and told me it was obviously a loved R and the nicest condition for the mileage he had seen. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>-Another tech said he liked the exhaust note (EST ftw)<p>Now, to retune it. The car is unbelievably smooth now but my butt-dyno is very sad.<p>Just not enough positive experiences on here. I did 2 turns on the wastegate yesterday, and with the stutter gone, I am way in love again. Oh baby oh baby, can't wait to drive you home <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Oh and I saw a beautiful 06-07 ticama at Gasparro's wine store (Federal Hill) Saturday. Nicely tinted, newly detailed, sexy.
 

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When was your stutter occuring?
 

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It was <i>usually</i> around 3500-4000, but it was not uncommon to see it happen anywhere above 2500. Top end also seems improved, she would loose almost all power over 6k. (But i only got to rev it out once between the dealer and work)<p>I had ruled out the 3500rpm stutter because it was not the rule. 4700ish also seemed a regular trouble spot.
 

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<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> to the fix.<br>I wonder what happens that a simple ECM update will revert it back to its original running condition.<p>Now if you re-tune the car, won't you overwrite their updates?
 

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Good question phuz. The way I understand it, no.<p>To start:<br>-I did NOT reflash to stock first. Had RICA stage 1.<br>-Dealer said everything went smooth, so this did not matter.<br>-Car is SLOW now, so I can tell its no longer tuned.<p>Now I need to:<br>-Use PPC loader to download (or maybe just read?) the new ECM software, as I don't think I can straight upload again.<br>-I willl have to go through RICA or the seller to get a new map, based on this new software. (I think this can all be done online with RICA actually, I have a password for a website that I think does this exact thing)<br>-I can then upload the new tune I'm given.<p>So the stage 1 is an "add on" to the base software, not a complete overwrite. I imagine it just alters some key values and not much else. I am reminded of Lucky stating "this is a torque based system, not boost" - so its likely that tunes more-or-less just alter what the car's target torque is, and some other required changes to go with this (at least for stage 1 - above this may be completely different since there is new hardware to incorporate. And also, I have no idea and this is all a guess <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> )<p>Now at the dealer they COMPLETELY overwrite the software, so any altered values are wiped out.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by imageomega at 10:01 AM 6-22-2009</i>
 

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Gotcha.<br>Keep us informed. That process looks like the things I have read before. I assumed you were just going to overwrite what was there. lol
 

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Well there is always a chance that the stutter was something the RICA tune changed, but I highly doubt it. It had a stutter previous to tuning it just wasn't as pronounced (more power/fuel/boost = more noticeable fluctuations)<p>If the RICA tune does cause any issue Ill certainly post it here, but I have high hopes.
 

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I suspect you will have to contact RICA as your PPC will see the ECU as "new" and thus it won't tune. I had an ECU update and then the PPC said "read car?" essentially indicating that it needs to download the ecu parameters for RICA to then build your tune. <p>Hopefully I'm wrong as it always takes a couple of days.
 

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John, I think you're right on.<p>However I thought you could do the "read car", upload this data to the website, and have a tune ready pretty quickly (as in instantly)?<p>Even so, I'll wait a few days if I have to. SO WORTH IT to be able to hit the gas and not have it go AHEIUT!$#^HGEOWHGG$^HSEHGOW!!!
 

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That is some very descriptive writing...<p>If you have direct access to RICA it might be faster. I understand they can get a little backed up sometimes. It took me about 2 days to get the updated file. <p>
 

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Re: Good dealer experience - Stutter is gone (imageomega)

Do you have any info (number, modules, etc..) regarding the software update? Anything at all? <p>Thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Joe, the part# of the software revision is on the invoice (in my car). I'll post it after lunch.<p>And yes, I brought my lunch, but I have an hour and I'm taking her for a ride dammit.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have any info (number, modules, etc..) regarding the software update? Anything at all? <p>Thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Joe, you are still having that problem after changing the plugs?<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>imageomega</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Joe, the part# of the software revision is on the invoice (in my car). I'll post it after lunch.<p>And yes, I brought my lunch, but I have an hour and I'm taking her for a ride dammit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am interested in knowing this too, dropped my ride off at the dealer for them to look at it, if you can get this info, i can tell them.<br>More power to you for bringing lunch and going for a nice drive; do you take a ride on the 95 or the 146 during lunch?<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>imageomega</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Joe, the part# of the software revision is on the invoice (in my car). I'll post it after lunch.<p>And yes, I brought my lunch, but I have an hour and I'm taking her for a ride dammit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks!! and <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>People thought I was crazy when I bought my R in February last year, and would take a lunch only to drive Sheridan Rd. (Twisty goodness).
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>QnsMostWanted</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Joe, you are still having that problem after changing the plugs?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep, it's exactly the same. I had a SW update available at Volvo a couple weeks ago, but it was for the brake to ecu module communications or something, and it was $100+ for the update, so I said "let me fix what's wrong right now, and I'll worry about getting everything else sorted after". Now I'm thinking there's something to this update. I hope, anyway.
 

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"INFO ECM SOFTWARE UPGRADE <b>30677021</b>"<p>Parts: $24.01<br>Labor: $52.50<p>Best $75 spent on this thing yet <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Awesome! I will check the upgrade they offered me. Wow, I hope its the same one. TYVM for posting this <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><br>
 

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No problem, Ive got my fingers crossed for you.<p>I've only gotten to put 30miles on her since the update but the car is completely different. Wastegate helped no doubt, just did that yesterday, but it seriously drives like a brand new car now. Before it felt like it had those 70k behind it. <p>Also, the WG tweak is FANTASTIC. In conjunction with this update:<br>-Can hear turbo a bit more in lower RPM<br>-300ft/lbs at 1950rpm isn't a huge lie anymore<br>-2nd and 3rd no longer care if RPMs are in the 2k range<br>-Similar to above, starting in 2nd isn't lagpossible now<br>-Exhaust "pops" a lot more now (every shift over 4500 so far)<p>I had an excuse last time I was asked to the track, now it is so on!!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>imageomega</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Also, the WG tweak is FANTASTIC. In conjunction with this update:<br>-Can hear turbo a bit more in lower RPM<br>-300ft/lbs at 1950rpm isn't a huge lie anymore<br>-2nd and 3rd no longer care if RPMs are in the 2k range<br>-Similar to above, starting in 2nd isn't lagpossible now<br>-Exhaust "pops" a lot more now (every shift over 4500 so far)<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've been keeping mine at 7psi, while I hunt down my gremlins, but I can say that I've gotten much practice performing this tweak as I had messed it up several times. As soon as mine is fixed, whether it be SW or coils or whatever, I'm crankin it. I want to love my car so bad, but it just doesnt love me back right now. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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