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Hi ladies and gents -

I'm looking to return to an '01-'07 S60 (or V70) after several years of owning... other things.

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I had a 2001 S60 2.4T that remains my absolute favorite car. I've owned bigger, faster, and more gas efficient, but it was ME.

Me, of course, being younger then, saw a '98 V70R for sale locally and traded the S60 to my mom for that. Big mistake - the V had been beat on and was a huge money pit. She loved the S60 until she managed to make a telephone pole's acquaintance at 55mph. She loved it even more after she walked away with seatbelt bruises and an airbag burn, and bought an '06 2.5T to replace it. I continued to pour money into the V70R to replace Things That Make It Go until I'd had enough.

Replaced that with a brand new '08 Mazda3 hatchback, which was nice enough for an appliance. Drove that for a few years, got pretty bored - it didn't get the gas mileage to justify the anemic engine, it didn't hold enough stuff to justify being a hatchback, etc. Seats weren't right, for sure. So I figured I wanted bigger! I traded it in on a car I'd always had my eye on: a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Boy has that been a mistake. I saw the EPA estimated 15 city/19 hwy and said hey, I can probably do better than that! Nope. Mine is a full-time AWD setup with limited slip diffs front and back, and you can lock it into more of a 50/50 4WD mode via a shifter inside. Yes, the full-time AWD defaults to the rear wheels and they say the MPG difference is negligible... but yikes. 12MPG city is not cool, and throwing a little party when it breaks above 19.9MPG hwy is also not cool, with the amount of highway driving I do. Royal Purple fluids in the diffs and t-case, the best dealer fluid in the tranny, brand new spark plugs, and meticulous maintenance do not make a lick of difference to the gas bill. Also, the seats. Oh, the seats. This is the top-of-the-line, 41,000 dollar sticker price Overland model with the upgraded 2-tone leather, 10-way power seats on both sides... and I feel like my lower back is developing curves it never had before. I'm barely 29 but rapidly feeling much older! Oh, and the headrests are WAY too far back. I don't remember Volvos having that problem!

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But I digress. I like the space inside my Grand Cherokee, but have realized that I may have wanted AWD/4WD when living in snowy climes, but Alabama doesn't really get that so much. Ever, really. FWD is FINE with me. So: I'm ideally looking for a low mileage well-maintained V70 2.5T, but S60s are AOK too.

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My question for you guys (I'm from the North, I don't say y'all yet) is:

Are there any specific years/year ranges within the '01-'07 model years to stay away from? I remember there was a big hullabaloo about the electronic throttle in my '01 and how it would eventually crash me into a tree and kill me and then find my family and kill them, etc - is the problem gone, and when did that go away? Are the transmissions still prone to fail? Am I insane for wanting to come back to the fold?

Thanks, and if anyone made it through the whole story I'll buy you an e-beer.
 

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well the general rule is avoid 01-02 due to transmission issues

there was a facelift in 05, better seats, updated head/tail lights, id go for that year up
 

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Get a 01-07 manual transmission and problem solved
 

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Thanks for the responses - MTX is an option for sure, but going by the numbers autos seem more common. Automagic issues are less after 02, all else being equal?
 

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I think there's alot of transmission failures in the 01/02 due to poor maintenance -.- of course it's easier to avoid it if you're "lazy" I guess. Proper maintenance and the B4 Servo upgrade and no issues out of mine. Nor the slightest hint of shift flare.

And automatics are definitely the more common transmission.
 

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Love my 02 2.4T.

If memory serves: Transmission problems reported early on were with GT, not the old-fashioned automatic, and I thought that got worked out with software and/or AW55-50 revisions in mid-2002. There were some issues with Italian-made throttle bodies on the 01 models only. Engines got a slight HP boost and multi-link suspension revised in 03, variable valve timing added in 04, and AWD improved in 05. Also body-colored moldings came with the 05 design refresh.

Whichever version you choose, these are wonderful cars. Nice size, versatile and a delight on the highway. The turbo- even LPT- makes a big difference in driving dynamics. NA felt heavy and sluggish to me.
 

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Love my 02 2.4T.

If memory serves: Transmission problems reported early on were with GT, not the old-fashioned automatic, and I thought that got worked out with software and/or AW55-50 revisions in mid-2002. There were some issues with Italian-made throttle bodies on the 01 models only. Engines got a slight HP boost and multi-link suspension revised in 03, variable valve timing added in 04, and AWD improved in 05. Also body-colored moldings came with the 05 design refresh.

Whichever version you choose, these are wonderful cars. Nice size, versatile and a delight on the highway. The turbo- even LPT- makes a big difference in driving dynamics. NA felt heavy and sluggish to me.
They are all the same unit. The geartronic simply had the option to choose your own gears. It wasn't a different unit than the "old-fashioned" automatic. Both are Aisin built AW55-5X
 

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05-07 t5s are pretty hard to beat unless you want an R

If you care much about finding the right car.. take your time and be willing to fly/drive it back... especially in the south.
 

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Here's a good thread about the transmissions on the 2001's: http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?32702-2001-S60-transmission&

I'd shy away from the '01's only because of the auto trans and ETM, both might have been fixed on any given vehicle by now though. Other than that you have your pick as usual, small updates here and there but the S60 is generally a solid car. I'd newer is probably better but mileage would matter more, and 100,000 is just broken in on these. If you can find an clean '03 that has good records I'd buy it over a 2008 that seems questionable. Use common sense, don't rush and you'll be happy. Good luck with the quest.
 
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