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Guage Lighting Question - Do These Look Normal?

This may redefine anal retentive... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'm about to head to the dealer for an oil change and some warranty work. One thing that has been driving me nuts is the gauge cluster backlighting, specifically an apparent dead spot on the speedometer (at approx. 90mph) and a rather glaring disparity between the brightness on the odometer screen and the clock screen. I would like to know if this is normal, or if I have some dead LEDs back there that need to be replaced.<p>Here are the pics - I snapped a side shot of the cluster to better show the dead spot at 90mph, which happens to be exactly the same spot on the bezel that reflects glare from the overhead LEDs in a straight-ahead photo.<p>As always, any input is greatly appreciated! - Tryg<p><IMG SRC="http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3711/guages19if.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6604/guages25my.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/4616/guages35ty.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: (Token)

If you take a small mirror you should be able to place it at the bottom of the speedometer console and see if any of the LEDs are out. They are in the top of the speedometer console and shine down at the speedo.<p>I think LEDs are all or nothing, you won't have one that is dim.<p>-Ben
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bcantana</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you take a small mirror you should be able to place it at the bottom of the speedometer console and see if any of the LEDs are out. They are in the top of the speedometer console and shine down at the speedo.<p>I think LEDs are all or nothing, you won't have one that is dim.<p>-Ben</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think the problem (if any) may be more in the backlighting LED's. <p>What's weridest is that disaparity in the brightness of the clock / odo displays.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> What's weridest is that disaparity in the brightness of the clock / odo displays. </TD></TR></TABLE> <p>This is what I am most concerned about - I take it from your reply that one display being noticeably brighter is IS NOT normal. Hopefully, the dealer can rectify this - it's really annoying. Yes, all of the LED downlights are working as they should - it's a question as to whether there is an LED behind the gauge that is dim or out.<p>Thanks - Tryg
 

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I don't think there are any backlights for the R gauge faces, only the dial pointers. They're stamped metal. The message pods are independently illuminated display panels. <p>The gauges appear to be lit with overhead white "stagelamp" illumination much like the Chryslers of the very early 1970s. Being 2004, the LEDs are a new touch.<p>It looks like the whole bank is dim, as I would expect more light everywhere. It may be a circuit malfunction. I presume the brightness wheel is turned up all the way.
 

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I believe that there are backlights on the bezel, too. On the bezel, 90mph is right where one of the overhead LEDs is located, so I don't see how that portion would appear dimly lit.<p>When I drive through a tunnel or into a dark parking garage, it looks like the guages are backlit at first and a few moments later a light sensor kicks up the overhead illumination. Am I crazy? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>- Tryg
 

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No, you're not. The overhead gauge illumination is always on, and variably adjusted by one of the computers based on outside lighting conditions. When driving into a tunnel, I would expect the illumination to ratchet up.<p>That's why I think you have a control malfunction somewhere.<p>I'm almost certain there is no gauge backlighting other than for the indicator arms.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am I crazy? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, I would definetly complain about that. All my lights appear to be even to me (including the backlight, whether incandesant or LED) behind the gauge rings.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you guys certain there ARE backlite LED?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well vadis shows a total 10 (ten) bulbs.... all shown as going in from the back. However, there is no procedure specific to changing them. This for the R panel too..
 

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Re: Guage Lighting Question - Do These Look Normal? (RainyS60R)

The R gauges are front and backlit. The front lighting is from the LEDs up top, which make the reflective blue background stand out. When it gets dark and the headlights turn on, the backlights behind the aluminum rim turn on to make the hash marks turn white (they're dark during the day).<p>Mine has a dim spot or two in those areas. I had the dealer take it apart, but they didn't find anything missing. I suspect it's just a dim spot due to the arrangement of the LEDs behind gauges. Usually it's masked by the glare from the frontlights, so it isn't noticed as much.
 

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Re: Guage Lighting Question - Do These Look Normal? (partridge)

Does anyone know if the outside light sensor can be adjusted for sensitivity in VIDA? Basically, now that I have tint I would like my guages to be at their brightest all the time. It seemed that this was the case in my T5, but I also understand the guages are lit differently.<p>
 

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Re: Guage Lighting Question - Do These Look Normal? (partridge)

I have the exact same dim section on my bezel. Let me know if yours is fixable.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I think the problem (if any) may be more in the backlighting LED's. <p>What's weridest is that disaparity in the brightness of the clock / odo displays. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Volvo made this (as usual) all wrong and it needs 2 more lights on the end, over the outside gauges.<br>I personally don't like the lighting, never did.<br>They should have made it "normal" with the gauges lit, not 2 small lights shining from above <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Guage Lighting Question - Do These Look Normal? (RainyS60R)

Well, my S60R is spending the night at the dealer while a few parts are shipped in and boy do I miss her greatly. I thought borrowing the new S40 loaner car would be fun. I was wrong! Definitely not an inspiring sedan, at least not the base model parked in my garage.<p>As I predicted, my local dealer once again let me down by claiming that my "problems" are entirely normal for the R-Series. They are now telling me that my gauge lighting is exactly as it should be. This is the third known abnormality that they have told me is A-okay. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So, apparently all R's have unrepairable clunks in their front suspensions, horribly unbalanced gauge lighting, and driver's seatbacks that wiggle about an inch back and forth (while the passenger seat remains solid as a rock). <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <B><U>Time to find a new service department!!!</B></U> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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