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I picked upp four new Michelin at americas Tire under warantee at a cost of $782,07 including mounting and balancing. The cost without warrantee would have been $1080.00. I did not have to show proof of rotation, mileage was 16303 and the amount of tread left was measured at 3 or less at each location.
 

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Really?!? That's awesome. I use America's Tire anyway. I thought they would only honor a warranty claim when you had purchased the tires, not on your original set. I'm at 5/32(checked at America's Tire two weeks ago), so will be up for a change soon enough.
 

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Dang. Thank you Daniel. I buy all my stuff at America's Tire so I'm pleased to know I will be taken care of. I've purchased many thousands of dollars worth of tires there and they always treat me well. They are a first rate operation. I actually entertained stealing their manager at one point!
 

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Tire question

Hi guys,

newbie here. Were there defects on the tires? Was that the original warranty that was honored? I just bought number 12 recently and will probably need a tire change soon. So any tips on reducing that bill would be greatly appreciated.

Let me know.

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Hi guys,

newbie here. Were there defects on the tires? Was that the original warranty that was honored? I just bought number 12 recently and will probably need a tire change soon. So any tips on reducing that bill would be greatly appreciated.

Let me know.

Ludovic
It's a treadwear warranty. These tires have a 30k mile treadwear warranty, so certain shops will give you a pro-rated discount based on the mileage you are at. I just checked with my manual and the Michelin packet was there with the treadwear warranty, so I am going to ask for it as well. I never got it before on my first set of tires because I was always upgrading to PSS. First car with PSS stock.

 

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So just for me to understand, do I need to wait until the tires are down to 2/32nd? Mine are at around 3/32 currently. Also you mentioned you used America's tire. Is that essentially the best place in the bay area? Are you guys using a specific one?Let me know.

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I think it is going to be shop dependent. Some will be sticklers about it others will be lenient. I was thinking about heading back into America's Tire in the next few days to see what they have to say. Everyone seems to have their own preferences of shops. I just have an AT that was close to where I lived when I had my Subaru so went there and continued going to the same shop since. Basically all of the big chain places tend to be more lenient as the can easily eat the cost of warranty work but you still need to go to a place you are going to trust with these wheels. 3/32 is way low and I would be looking at replacing them especially with the rain we are about to be getting tonight into tomorrow.
 

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Here is how it went for me. I have been buying tires from this dealer for 10 years so they know me, which may be an advantage. First the shop should measure each tire in three places across the tread. On my tires all but two readings were at 3 or less and the other were at 4. Then the dealer will call Michelin and they will say yes or no. If they say yes Michelin will add the 12 readings and divide that total by 12 to determine the total percentage left and that says how much your refund will be. I would say if the dealer won't call Michelin turn around walk out and find a dealer that will.
 

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At AT right now. Realized my front left was down to the wear bar on the inside. They are calling the claim office right now.

Update: So my front left tire is complete toast...


This is how things played out with the warranty. Pretty much the same as Daniel. Took measurements and called Michelin. No talk about rotations. My front left measured out at 4/3/3(that damage is on the sidewall), FR 4/3/4, RL 5/4/5, RR 5/5/6. I was given credits as follows FL:60% FR:40% Rears:25%. AT said they were surprised I got any credit for the rears as Mfgs generally tell customers to keep driving anything with more than 4/32. Total with mounting and balancing will be $832. I am probably going to pay the extra $40/tire for the warranty which replaces the tire with a new one if it is damaged(nail, curb, etc) and is unrepairable. The fix all repairable tires for free anyway. At $270/tire, the replacement warranty makes sense. One thing is that the P* was not in their system. New tires should be here in a couple of days.

If anyone local wants the shop I used it is this one, http://stores.americastire.com/ca/redwood-city/can-11/
 

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Wow, that last spirited drive must have done them in! Good thing you are getting new tires for the rainy season, now that we are having one. ;)
 

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Wow, that last spirited drive must have done them in! Good thing you are getting new tires for the rainy season, now that we are having one. ;)
Yeah, I'm just glad I caught it before heading up Mt Hamilton tomorrow like I was planning. Apparently that road has sent quite a few motorcyles tumbling off of it as well as a car or two.
 

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At AT right now. Realized my front left was down to the wear bar on the inside. They are calling the claim office right now.

Update: So my front left tire is complete toast...


This is how things played out with the warranty. Pretty much the same as Daniel. Took measurements and called Michelin. No talk about rotations. My front left measured out at 4/3/3/3(that damage is on the sidewall), FR 4/3/4/4, RL 5/4/5/5, RR 5/5/5/6. I was given credits as follows FL:60% FR:40% Rears:25%. AT said they were surprised I got any credit for the rears as Mfgs generally tell customers to keep driving anything with more than 4/32. Total with mounting and balancing will be $832. I am probably going to pay the extra $40/tire for the warranty which replaces the tire with a new one if it is damaged(nail, curb, etc) and is unrepairable. The fix all repairable tires for free anyway. At $270/tire, the replacement warranty makes sense. One thing is that the P* was not in their system. New tires should be here in a couple of days.

If anyone local wants the shop I used it is this one, http://stores.americastire.com/ca/redwood-city/can-11/
You might want to have the alignment checked. You shouldn't be getting that kind of wear on the inside shoulder. The toe could be off.

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You might want to have the alignment checked. You shouldn't be getting that kind of wear on the inside shoulder. The toe could be off.

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The outside shoulder is beat up pretty bad as well, but I will look into it. The last drive I did was a recipe for tire degradation. It was just non-stop twisty roads for hours on end. The tires got hot and continued to get pushed. A bunch of the drive was along the coast so it was mostly right hand turns putting heavy wear exactly there. I was hoping to get a year out of these tires and got exactly that. Just wasn't looking to go down to the wear bars.
 

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The outside shoulder is beat up pretty bad as well, but I will look into it. The last drive I did was a recipe for tire degradation. It was just non-stop twisty roads for hours on end. The tires got hot and continued to get pushed. A bunch of the drive was along the coast so it was mostly right hand turns putting heavy wear exactly there. I was hoping to get a year out of these tires and got exactly that. Just wasn't looking to go down to the wear bars.
How many miles?
 

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The outside shoulder is beat up pretty bad as well, but I will look into it. The last drive I did was a recipe for tire degradation. It was just non-stop twisty roads for hours on end. The tires got hot and continued to get pushed. A bunch of the drive was along the coast so it was mostly right hand turns putting heavy wear exactly there. I was hoping to get a year out of these tires and got exactly that. Just wasn't looking to go down to the wear bars.
The outside shoulder should be worse off than the inside with the limited negative camber on the front. Was there significant inside shoulder wear on the other front tire?
 

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The outside shoulder should be worse off than the inside with the limited negative camber on the front. Was there significant inside shoulder wear on the other front tire?
The other front had wear but not near as bad. Something is definitely up. Communicated with my old Shop Foreman who suggested having it checked out as well. He said NA cars usually have less camber in the LF to counteract road crown but the P* is aligned more neutral. I got the factory specs for my car...



I'm going to wait until I get my new tires put on and then going to have the shop Foreman take a good look at my entire Suspension in addition to the alignment, rather than just have a random guy at the tire shop who has never seen the car before do an alignment.
 

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The P* has 1.1 neg camber in the front??

Considering OfficialPolestar stated, that the geometries (cambr and toe) are no different from normal R-Designs, I cant believe this numbers are right. Not even a Cayman R (< -1) or a Exige S V6 (-0.4) has that much camber factorysetting.
 
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