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I have a 1999 V70XC with 97,000 miles.<p>Recently, it was started making popping sound when turning right. It turns out that a mounting point of the subframe onto the main frame broke. The subframe is now being supported by 3 out of 4 subframe mounts.<p>Has anyone seen a failure like this on such a young car?<p><A HREF="http://kiisaka.smugmug.com/gallery/9247055_nzvVd/1/617401257_423yZ " TARGET="_blank">http://kiisaka.smugmug.com/gal...23yZ </A>
 

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Re: Frame failure on my 1999 V70XC (kiisaka)

Are you sure you're not just referring to a subframe <B>bushing?</B><br>Never mind I looked at your pictures.<br>You must have really hit someting for that to happen, they don't just break like that.<br>Better call your insurance company and tell them you ran over something as this is at least a TWO GRAND fix and you can't just continue to drive this way or else the entire subframe may fail as it's not supported properly now
 

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Yes, as you can clearly see in the photos, it is the attachment point on the main frame to which the subframe mounts that failed.<p>I am still waiting for the estimate, but it will involve taking apart the front end, cut off the bad part, weld in a new frame segment, and put it all together back again.
 

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Re: Frame failure on my 1999 V70XC (kiisaka)

<B>That's not what you're supposed to do.</B><br>You replace the entire subframe.<br>The actual labot is not all that bad, but the subframe is $1200 I believe.<br>As I said report this to your insurance company, say you ran over something and let them fix it properly.<br>It's done all the time, people run over something (large) and the subframe gets bent!
 

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Re: Frame failure on my 1999 V70XC (JRL)

Yes, except that it is NOT the subframe that failed. IT IS THE MAIN FRAME THAT FAILED!!!!<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Ouch!<p>Definitely need to get that frame section repaired ASAP!<p>I'd still go with JRL's idea of insurance claim. You should get new bushing for the subframe while you're at it - that one doesn't look so great - in fact, maybe that's what caused the frame mount to overstress - without sufficient flex in the mount, it could stress the actual mount point...
 

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what did you run over a elephant ? <p>frame damage from an accident of some sort. <p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lookforjoe</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd still go with JRL's idea of insurance claim.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Depending upon how his insurance would handle said claim, he might not end up saving anything (and might actually end up <i>losing</i> money?) if it wasn't some sort of "act of god" incident, or he doesn't have comprehensive coverage, either of which could cause his premiums to go up...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StarmanDXE</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Depending upon how his insurance would handle said claim, he might not end up saving anything (and might actually end up <i>losing</i> money?) if it wasn't some sort of "act of god" incident, or he doesn't have comprehensive coverage, either of which could cause his premiums to go up...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Do me a favor...<p><B>SHUT UP</B><p>You have absolutely NO IDEA what you're talking about and all you do is make yourself do is sound like a total idiot (which most of us already know).<br>THIS IS COVERED UNDER ALL INSURANCE POLICIES <br>(as long as he has <U>collision coverage, OBVIOUSLY)</U><p>Out of curiosity how is running over something an act of God?<br>The only way that would be is if you say to the insurance company "God made me do it"! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ....then, yes I would then suppose it would be an <I>act of God</I>.<br>Don't speculate. If you can't answer that with 100% assurity, please just don't.
 

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Just... wOw.<p>How long have you had this car?<br>How did it drive, even before it started making the "sound"?<br>I would think this would cause some seriously odd driving behavior. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL (StarmanDXE's interpretation)</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't understand what you're talking about and I have no interest in learning <b>SO I'M GOING TO START YELLING THAT YOU'RE WRONG!</B><p><B>ALSO, I'M GOING TO THROW COPY EDITING OUT THE WINDOW!</B></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yes yes, I already know that. Thanks for informing me.<p>But, for the benefit of others (and in the off-chance that you actually want to learn):<p><A HREF="http://www.carinsurancequote.net/car-insurance-premiums.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carinsurancequote.n....html</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Insurance companies set their rates and subsequently their premiums based on risk. This risk is the financial risk that will be absorbed by the insurance provider in case there is an accident. It is a statistical figure that is based on the chances or odds that a particular driver will have an accident. The reason that this is important is because accidents, even minor ones, are extremely costly. The more accidents that are incurred by a driver will result in the more money that is paid to the insurance company in terms of premiums.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Basically, making a claim causes them to deem you as a risk. A claim is only worth making if you can't afford the costs of the repair out-of-pocket and have comprehensive coverage and the incident you claim for is covered under this. Otherwise, because the law allows them to, if you make a claim, they will (generally) raise your rates. Therefore, making a claim is no more than taking out a loan with your insurance company.<p>Car insurance is generally for protecting yourself against <i>catastrophic</i> incidents which you might cause. (i.e. Tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage you might do with your car.) It is not an extended warranty and it is not for car repairs (<b>unless</b> you pay for comprehensive coverage and the repair is covered under that).<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have absolutely NO IDEA what you're talking about and <b>all you do is make yourself do is sound like a total idiot</b> (which most of us already know).</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Nuff said. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0"><p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THIS IS COVERED UNDER ALL INSURANCE POLICIES <br>(as long as he has <U>collision coverage, OBVIOUSLY)</U></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I never said he wouldn't be <i>covered.</i> All I said was that it might not be worth his while making a claim...<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Out of curiosity how is running over something an act of God?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>The only thing I am 100% sure of being an act of god would be if an animal ran out in front of your car. Other things <i>might</i> include (anyone, please correct me if you know better): if a tree got knocked over due to winds, if a pothole filled with water (maybe?), if he ran over a <i>particularly</i> large chunk of hail... Any sort of natural disaster.<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only way that would be is if you say to the insurance company "God made me do it"! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ....then, yes I would then suppose it would be an <I>act of God</I>.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Seriously? You've never heard the phrase "act of god." Do me a favor and <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God" TARGET="_blank">go educate yourself</A>. (And no. That situation would explicitly <i>not</i> be a case of an act of god... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> )<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't speculate. If you can't answer that with 100% assurity, please just don't.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Why not? I'd rather get some questions in his head for him to think/ask about with my 80% certainty than wait for "100% <i>assurity</i>" ( <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> ) to mention anything...
 
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