SwedeSpeed - Volvo Performance Forum banner

1 - 20 of 25 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Well, maybe not heaven, but it was 45 degrees this morning, cold, rainy, 4C disconnected and the R was FLYING. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I had to drive over some seriously poor roads this morning, no hop <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">AT ALL, handled VERY well and all is good again.<br>I forgot what a pleasure it is to drive it with the 4C disconnected (w/ TME springs and rear bar) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> matches up very well this way
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (JRL)

I most definitely agree although I still wish the ride was a tad bit stiffer. If I get the time this summer, I will experiment feeding the SUM a steady state signal to all the accelerometer inputs and see if I can use 4C to statically adjust the valving of the struts.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,121 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (ghodge)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ghodge</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I most definitely agree although I still wish the ride was a tad bit stiffer. If I get the time this summer, I will experiment feeding the SUM a steady state signal to all the accelerometer inputs and see if I can use 4C to statically adjust the valving of the struts.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><B><I>LET ME KNOW IF YOU SUCCEED!!!</I></B> I would SERIOUSLY be interested in helping you out (if I can) toward this end goal. In my opinion, the uncontrollable 4C inputs is the one thing I HATE about this car. Removing that problem would make this the perfect car for me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
21,340 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><B><I>LET ME KNOW IF YOU SUCCEED!!!</I></B> I would SERIOUSLY be interested in helping you out (if I can) toward this end goal. In my opinion, the uncontrollable 4C inputs is the one thing I HATE about this car. Removing that problem would make this the perfect car for me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed. I don't know what help I could possibly be on this, but ask and I will try. The adjustability of the 4C is great but the way it overreacts to bumps SUCKS! Oh, this would be great!<p>I know, I'm getting excited over something that's not likely to work. Oh well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Re: Found heaven again (ghodge)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ghodge</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I most definitely agree although I still wish the ride was a tad bit stiffer. If I get the time this summer, I will experiment feeding the SUM a steady state signal to all the accelerometer inputs and see if I can use 4C to statically adjust the valving of the struts.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think it needs a shock change, if anything you would want an even stiffer <B>SPRING</B> not a shock.<br>The shocks in default <B>(non 4C)</B> is fairly stiff, liniar and just about right.<br>I would bet with Eibachs (or a similar shorter spring) it would be to your liking, (as in perfect) as I think they are a tad stiffer spring rate. I personally don't want to deal with that ride height and like the TME's myself. Remember I have a wagon, the S60 may be about right.<br>Stiffer for stiffness sake doesn't mean it will handle any better, the trick is to match the springs, the shockas and the sway bars.<br>I also would think if you went with ipd's <B>TRACK SPEC sway bars front and rear</B> it would help you to find what you're looking for<br>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
336 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (JRL)

4C disconnected? Now you're talking. How do I get rid of this blasted thing? I didn't know that was a possibility. How much are TME springs and rear bar? Maybe there's hope for this car yet.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (JRL)

(Un)fortunately the TME springs give me the ideal ride height and I don't want to go any lower either. With the TME springs and the iPd rear sway bar I am running now, I am happy with the current level of handling. It's the ride quality that I'm trying to button down. TME springs + Ipd swaybar with 4C disconnect is 95% there. I just want to see where 4C in static advanced mode gets me.<p>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Re: Found heaven again (Dashdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dashdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4C disconnected? Now you're talking. How do I get rid of this blasted thing? I didn't know that was a possibility. How much are TME springs and rear bar? Maybe there's hope for this car yet.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Just pull the 4C fuse.<br>If you just do that <B>you will have no headlights</B> (remain in the down position)<br>If you disconnect an accelerometer in the hatch area apparantly the headlights remain in correct working position.<br>(This takes a couple of minutes longer and I don't drive much at night anyway)<br>You will have an error message on the display but tap the turn signal and it goes away. The small warning triangle remains in the center of the dash but it's no big deal, you can barely see it. I forget it's on.<br>I don't know where the 4C fuse is on an 06 but you can find it easily enough.<br>On an 04 it's in the fuse box at the left end of the dash, #23 but I'm sure it's in a different place on yours as the 05's and 06's have a different electrical system.<br>You won't like it until you install springs, the stock springs are very soft and with no shock adjustment the R will lean (roll).<br>However, if you're just puttering around with the family it has a much "safer", no hop feel to it, so try it, the worst that will happen is you replace the fuse
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Re: Found heaven again (Dashdog)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dashdog</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks, I'll give it a shot. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>yeah, just don't forget if you pull the fuse to <B>remember to put it back in before </B><B>dusk.</B><br>(Unless you disconnect an accelerometer in the trunk)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
23 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><B><I>LET ME KNOW IF YOU SUCCEED!!!</I></B> I would SERIOUSLY be interested in helping you out (if I can) toward this end goal. In my opinion, the uncontrollable 4C inputs is the one thing I HATE about this car. Removing that problem would make this the perfect car for me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wait, do you mean you dont like the 4C chassis? I thought that was the good part about the R...... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Re: Found heaven again (brat2)

Do some past reading, I think 1 in a 100 like the 4C
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do some past reading, I think 1 in a 100 like the 4C</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I love how JRL loves to tell people to "search previous threads" and not to "post on boring, and irrelevant topics", such as this thread about driving his car on a cold day.<p>Wooo-hoooo... you had a nice cool day. Congrats.<p>Perhaps you and a growing number of forum members should watch this:<p> <A HREF="http://www.zfilms.org/Stories/Murano/PostingAndYou.swf" TARGET="_blank">BASIC FORUM RULES AND GUIDANCE: "POSTING AND YOU"</A>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Re: Found heaven again (HSE)

Oh, it's a Mr. 3 post again, knows it all <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It was about the 4C, JO
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,344 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (brat2)

<B>I must be the 1 in 100 that does like the 4C system!</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I have to agree with JRL, though, that disabling the system does have a time and a place. I disconnect the rear accelerometer only on long leisurely roadtrips with the fam when aggressive driving usually leads to a spousal tongue lashing. The car rides very smoothly, as in "Buick" smooth, when riding on the stock springs and no 4C. This makes for a very serene driving experience on long straightaways and a car that is SCARY AS HELL in the twisties. I think the 4C set to "advanced" does a fine job of leveling the car out during aggressive driving. <p>Mgotts designed and installed an ingenious remote controlled system to disable the 4C system on the fly from the driver's seat. I'm planning to steal all of his hard work and add to his design a fully removable wiring harness (for warranty integrity should the system fail) and also see if I can trip the relay using an unused Homelink button.<p>- Tryg<p>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
633 Posts
Re: (daves60r)

I like everything about the car. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Somehow, that makes me feel lazy though.<br>Just about everytime I come in here, I leave feeling as if I really need to go out and beat the hell out of my car until I can find something to complain about. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Maybe it's because I am not a true 110% Volvo enthusiast. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> I just enjoy a vehicle that is a bit different from the norm.<p>However, I have learned to deal with both the good and the bad when it comes to automobiles. I have had 13 cars, not counting what my wife has driven, in the past 17 years...and most have been US made. So, a little bit of forgiving is always in order.<p>Maybe you guys need to get a motorcycle. Then you'll realize how most cars are nothing but that...big, metal, heavy, slow...cars. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
21,340 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (RainyS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I disconnect the rear accelerometer only on long leisurely roadtrips with the fam when aggressive driving usually leads to a spousal tongue lashing. The car rides very smoothly, as in "Buick" smooth, when riding on the stock springs and no 4C. This makes for a very serene driving experience on long straightaways and a car that is SCARY AS HELL in the twisties.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I did this again yesterday on the start of a 100 mile round trip excursion to Ikea. I pulled over after 5 miles and re-connected the accelerometer (on the V70R, it's just as easy as pulling a fuse...really, you just open the left rear cargo area panel and there it is). I love the way the car is predictable but Jim and Rainy are so right....the stock springs are WAY too soft. My car gets this weird front-rear rocking motion over low ampiltude bumps. <p>The funny thing is that after driving on it with no 4C a couple of times now, every time I reconnect it and put it in sport, I can really feel that even in sport, the springs are still too soft! The wallowing I can feel in Comfort (SUM Rev4) is still there in Sport. Just a bit, but it's still there. <p>When is that bonus check coming? July? Sheesh. Guess the TME's will have to wait until then!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
Re: Found heaven again (JRL)

Keep up the good fight... 20,7xx posts and counting! Perhaps this member has been around a bit to see that most of those posts area waste of time for the author and the audience.<p>Did you watch the video? You of all people should appreciate it!!!<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
63,543 Posts
Discussion Starter · #20 ·
Re: Found heaven again (HSE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HSE</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep up the good fight... 20,7xx posts and counting! Perhaps this member has been around a bit to see that most of those posts area waste of time for the author and the audience.<p>Did you watch the video? You of all people should appreciate it!!!<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Nice try.<br>Why don't you come out and tell us why you changed your screen name?<br>Busted<br>(Funny video, saw that a couple of years ago)<br>Oh, and if you even BOTHERED to read some of the replies, there are newbies that didn't know the 4C can be disconnected so they can decide for themselves if they wish to continue to keep it on 24/7<br>Heck, I got an IM from someone who's been here for YEARS asking where the fuse is, so I guess it still IS relevent
 
1 - 20 of 25 Posts
Top