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I am looking at picking up a used '04 V70 R. I think it is fully decked out - 6sp, atacama, nav. I read this forum fairly frequently and have done a search for 2004 threads. Nevertheless, it has been a lot of info to try to digest in the last 24 hours, so I'd appreciate any input/warnings/ advice you all might offer and treat me as if I'm a noob who knows nothing about the car. (I tend to be impulsive; i'm relying on you all for a reality-check!)<p>All I know is this: '04's<br>-have black side molding (vs. color-matched)<br>-do NOT have pre-loaded Haldex<br>-have a different HU withOUT presets but better bass output<br>-has a lousy turning radius and will ride best with tme springs and ipd rear sway (I guess true for all R's)<p>I also know that its a Volvo, not a Toyota or Honda. That said, What else would you advise someone who knew nothing about the car - idiosyncrisies, life-stage quirks (a' la p1 spring seats, air pumps, and abs modules at 70k), gremlins.<p>Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm 6'5", 210lbs, and have an 18 month old and will probably have another within the next year or so.<p>TIA.<p>Edit: have read this thread - <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58650" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58650</A><p>Just looking for anything more.
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (pktojd)

If I was looking at a used one I would have it gone over by a Volvo specialist, look for service records, and check the wheels and bumper covers very carefully- very prone to scratches, etc.
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (pktojd)

I would recommend hunting for a good deal on an '05 vs and '04. The '05s are not that much more money but you get a lot of little updates. The manual trans seems to be better in the '05. I have been in a few '04s that seem to have more issues getting into gear than the '05s. This might be something that you can fix on the '04 I can't remember the details on all the TNN's floating around. <p>Personally I think the interior upgrades alone are worth it. The exterior upgrade of color matched trim is a plus if you like it. After owning an '05 I have looked at a few '04s at the auction and the center console looks so much older and the fit and finish is not as good.<p>Personally I think the 2005 is the best buy used.
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (Kaizai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Kaizai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> After owning an '05 I have looked at a few '04s at the auction and the center console looks so much older and the fit and finish is not as good.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I love my '04 but I have to agree with this. The center console sucks. The sliding top one is much nicer, and the "ring" around the HU and CCM is much nicer. <p>
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (needsdecaf)

After my "issues" in the 1st 10K were taken care of, my (04) R now has been basically trouble free.<br>05 consoles are nicer, painted moldings are nicer (IMO) 04 radios are MUCH better, so it's all a trade off.<br>For the most part it seems that if you're going to have (big) trouble it happens reletively early, under 15K miles<br>JRL
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (pktojd)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pktojd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All I know is this: '04's<br>-have black side molding (vs. color-matched)<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>There are several threads on updating the side moldings on lighter-colored '04 cars. Many '04 owners have painted their side moldings while leaving the black below the door sills and beneath the bumpers. This looks much better than the any stock '04 or '05+ car IMHO.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-do NOT have pre-loaded Haldex<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe I'm clueless, but what does "pre-loaded Haldex" mean? Someone correct me if I am wrong, but all of the cars have the same Haldex system.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-have a different HU withOUT presets but better bass output<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The '04 models have the HU-803 stereo, which does offer terrific bass. The sedan has 13 speakers and the wagons have 11, so there may be less bass in the wagon. Volvo does offers an optional aftermarket subwoofer for the wagon. As for presets, they are there and accessed by a rather annoying dial or the steering wheel controls. Pushbuttons would be better, especially if you don't have 20 stations that you want to program. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-has a lousy turning radius and will ride best with tme springs and ipd rear sway (I guess true for all R's </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, the turning radius is poor on all R models but it's only a nuisance when you need to make a U-turn on a narrow street or when you are trying to beat your shopping nemesis to that last available parking space. Not only will you annoy them when your turbo gets you there first, you'll get plenty of mean stares as you make the other driver wait as you try desperately to maneuver your car into the space... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Honestly, I don't even notice the turning radius anymore - you just get used to it. I also park a mile away from any stores that I shop at. No door dings yet.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pktojd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm 6'5", 210lbs, and have an 18 month old and will probably have another within the next year or so.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You're definitely doing the right thing buying the wagon. The sedan's back seat space is pretty pathetic and I'm about half a foot shorter than you. The wagon offers a nice amount of legroom and doesn't have the low-slung C-pillar to duck under.<p>Good luck - Tryg<br>
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (pktojd)

I have an 04 S60R 6M, has been virtually bulletproof.<br>None of the nonsense that alot of people have had.<br>The only thing that pissed me off was how noodle soft the stock wheels are when they hit bumps and potholes, but I put aftermarket wheels on so no more problem. I also painted the moldings and did the 05 taillights(pain in the ass)<br>I like my Radio better cuz I can go thru all 20 presets on my wheel w/out having to switch to fm2 or fm3<br>I do like the 05 cupholder door better.<br>Bottom line, the R is a good car, and an enjoyable one.<p>Make sure you have the car looked over by someone competent to inspect an R.
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (RainyS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>There are several threads on updating the side moldings on lighter-colored '04 cars. Many '04 owners have painted their side moldings while leaving the black below the door sills and beneath the bumpers. This looks much better than the any stock '04 or '05+ car IMHO.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Maybe I'm clueless, but what does "pre-loaded Haldex" mean? Someone correct me if I am wrong, but all of the cars have the same Haldex system.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pre-loaded Haldex exists starting '06 I believe.
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (DocG)

<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Off topic, but can someone please define "pre-loaded Haldex" for me? sorry, I'm clueless as to what this means. <p>Thanks - Tryg<br>
 

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Re: Flame Suit On: ?'s about buying an '04 V70R (RainyS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Off topic, but can someone please define "pre-loaded Haldex" for me? sorry, I'm clueless as to what this means. <p>Thanks - Tryg<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Volvo Car Corporations’ all-wheel drive system, available with every Volvo vehicle as optional or standard equipment, has undergone an upgrade for the 2006 model year to improve performance and further reduce the likelihood of wheel spin.<br>The Volvo electronically-controlled all-wheel drive system now features Instant Traction. This new technology improves the scope for quick getaways and provides enhanced traction on slippery surfaces. It has been developed by the Swedish company Haldex.<p>A non-return valve in the hydraulic control system prevents the AWD system from being completely drained of hydraulic fluid (and pressure) as the vehicle slows to a stop. When starting from standstill, 59 lb.-ft (80 Nm) of torque is pre-charged in the system. As a result, the pre-charged torque engages the rear wheels much faster than previous AWD systems, which required wheel spin of a one-seventh turn of the front wheels before power was redistributed.<br>
 
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