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Strange that after washing, polishing and waxing the car, she would pay be me back by the common faulty sensor for '06 R's. Into limp home mode she went with the temp gauge at cold. Into the dealership I'm going on Monday.<p>The only thing that is a little frustrating is that Volvo doesn't automatically update the software. I had the car at the dealer just a couple of weeks ago for an oil change. This is a common problem and I will make sure to point that out.<p>For those who haven't experience an R in limp home mode, try this - hiijack a city bus. The acceleration will be about the same. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

... uggghhhhh... I wish there was a solution for you and of course it happened to you on a Saturday. Why only on '06 models I wonder? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (RainyS60R)

S*** ALWAYS happens on a Friday night or a Sat
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

I agree - this could have been avoided if they would have just required all '06s get the updated upon a service visit -- but I'm sure there is some "must demonstrate behavior" clause in some manual to save $2 on labor for a issue that may not happen on all '06s. extrapolate $2 across xxx # of cars and we get beancounters vs proactive customer service. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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You all are probably going to laugh at this story, but the whole point is to show how endemic of a problem it is.<p>So we get in a new 06 S60 R (it's actually optioned out exactly like my personal R), it goes through PDI, and everything's fine with it, then it goes to the front lot for people to test drive.<p>So I get this gentleman interested in the R, and I demonstrate the vehicle to him, and I'm talking all about how fast and powerful it is, blah blah blah, and we decide to take the car for a test drive. Well, the guy's from NY City (which it is typical for NYC transplants to have not driven for a while, because you don't need to there), and he's going SO SLOW. So I advise him of the speed limits (because he's WELL under them). Still slow. I say, "It's ok -- don't be bashful with the throttle . . . you're not going to hurt my feelings!" Still slow.<p>We go through the entire test drive, and I'm just thinking to myself "This guy not only doesn't know HOW to drive, but he isn't even R worthy! You're going to disgrace all R's!" When we get back to the dealership, I ask him how he likes the car, was it quick enough, powerful enough, handle well enough . . . and sure enough, he loves the car. So he agrees to buy the vehicle. <p>He leaves the dealership to go get lunch while we get the paperwork together and detail his car. So I grab the gas card to run fill the car out with gas, and I pull out of the dealership in this car and . . . it is impressively slower than a S40 2.4i. I'm talking, I've got this thing floored and it isn't going anywhere fast. I can barely even get it up to 45 mph!!! And that's when I realize the car's in limp home mode. I couldn't believe it -- the thing had 8 miles on it! I also couldn't believe how. slow. it. is. in. limp. home. mode.<p>So I take it around back, and in our case, it was software plus ECT sensor. Anyways, we clean the car up, get the paperwork ready, guy comes in, and we wrap everything up. After the paperwork's completed, I always spend a lot of time with my customers going over the vehicle in detail, so we did that. And then it's time for him to drive off in his brand new R (and I haven't said a WORD about the limp home thing). So he pulls out of the dealership and is GONE. About 3 minutes later he pulls back in says to me "Man, I've heard about cars being in a "demo" mode with reduced power, but this thing is crazy fast now!" I just laughed.<p>Another happy R owner on the road <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (RainyS60R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RainyS60R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... uggghhhhh... I wish there was a solution for you and of course it happened to you on a Saturday. Why only on '06 models I wonder? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good question. <br>Not really a big deal since the Denali is faithfully standing by (as always) and I know what the issue is. But I will drive right to the dealership on Monday and since I have the extended warranty I'll be able to get a car to drive if they don't have one available.
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Good question. <br>Not really a big deal since the Denali is faithfully standing by (as always) and I know what the issue is. But I will drive right to the dealership on Monday and since I have the extended warranty I'll be able to get a car to drive if they don't have one available.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have the extended warranty too. I have had only one small problem with one of the key remotes (mine) not working on our 06 R, but it's only 9 months old w/ 6k miles (wife's car that I drive on weekends). Anyway, if/when I should have a real problem- are you saying that I autmatically get a loaner car because I have the extended warranty? I don't know if that makes a difference to us- the dealer gave me a loaner when they took my R for the day to look at my key. I didn't even have to ask for it. And they didn't know I had the extended warranty because I bought it through Yannis / Stillman Volvo. Still if this is a benefit from having the extended warranty I'd like to know in case I have to "limp" to a different dealer that may not be as friendly.<p>Thanks!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>not2blu</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I have the extended warranty too. I have had only one small problem with one of the key remotes (mine) not working on our 06 R, but it's only 9 months old w/ 6k miles (wife's car that I drive on weekends). Anyway, if/when I should have a real problem- are you saying that I autmatically get a loaner car because I have the extended warranty? I don't know if that makes a difference to us- the dealer gave me a loaner when they took my R for the day to look at my key. I didn't even have to ask for it. And they didn't know I had the extended warranty because I bought it through Yannis / Stillman Volvo. Still if this is a benefit from having the extended warranty I'd like to know in case I have to "limp" to a different dealer that may not be as friendly.<p>Thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The extended warranty has a car rental clause in it. I believe it is $30/day (which is plenty to get something like a Dodge Neon through Enterprise...and as you know they come right to the dealer). This would only be used if the dealer doesn't have a loaner car available. Tomorrow morning I am simply dropping in since this is an emergency-type situation. I can't drive the car tomorrow on a local business trip in limp home mode (well, at least I don't want to). Since I am simply dropping in, I am not sure if they have a loaner available.
 

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Engine Coolant Temperature.<p>Tom.
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

Is there a TNN or something specific I should ask for when I go in for the 15,000 mile service next week?
 

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Sorry to hear that your beautiful sonic blue R had to go into limp mode. Especially if it sounds like it's a known software problem. I"m worried now that mine may do it anytime now.<p>So...what should I exactly tell my dealership to fix? Especially if there's nothing wrong with the car....yet!!<p>Flybyknight, let us know what they say and what they do.
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (R Salesman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You all are probably going to laugh at this story, but the whole point is to show how endemic of a problem it is.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually that pi$$e$ me off a little. I'm not a rolling test bed for Volvo. If they know of the problem and it is a simple fix, they should fu(king do it when the car is for service. What if I was 500 miles from home?!? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>23109VC</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">R saleman-<p>i can't believe that guy test drove the car in "LIMP" mode and then BOUGHT it!!! </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Lee's the man!
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

You'd never believe the exact same thing happened to my 06 today! No joke. I let it warm up to just bellow half way and drove out moderately, it gave it some good gas at the first main road and the power was all there, 1 minutes later I'm making a left turn behind a Civic and decide to blast by him after the turn but he's just pulling away from me! I noticed the temp gauge was back a cold but no CEL or any other warnings. I get back home, pull fuses 6 and 19, try to start it (to clear the ECU), put the fuses back and I think she's back to normal (temp guage back up but need to go for a test drive now).<p>I guess the ECU refuses to build any turbo boost when it get erroneous temp readings, probably a good thing.<p>So is there a TNN or bulletin for the ECT?<p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (LTA)

This will sum it up for you pretty nicely.<br>I'll be dropping her off at the dealership first thing tomorrow AM.<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55482" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55482</A>
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">........ Into limp home mode she went with the temp gauge at cold. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>At least it didn't happen when you were cruising down the Autobahn @230kph last year on your OSD trip <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Anyway I had the same issue, but right after I got my OSD vehicle from the dealer. The software download works no issues since last December <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Dan
 

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Re: First problem...And well known for '06's (flybynight)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flybynight</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually that pi$$e$ me off a little. I'm not a rolling test bed for Volvo. If they know of the problem and it is a simple fix, they should fu(king do it when the car is for service. What if I was 500 miles from home?!? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><i>You</i> a little? How do you think I felt once I discovered my customer was driving a vehicle that was in limp home mode? I wasn't exactly pleased.<p>I can't for the life of me figure out why Volvo doesn't take a pro-active approach to problems like this. They could integrate a software update to be performed at all vehicles entering the ports . . . they could have it integrated into the first 7500 mile service . . . there's all kinds of things they could do. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Salesman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't for the life of me figure out why Volvo doesn't take a pro-active approach to problems like this. They could integrate a software update to be performed at all vehicles entering the ports . . . they could have it integrated into the first 7500 mile service . . . there's all kinds of things they could do. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because......perhaps not all 06's will do this and therefore, some $$$ can be saved. Haven't you learned the FoMoCo way yet?
 
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