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Just got my 2010 V50 T5 Rdesign and cannot tell from manual whether factory engine oil is synthetic. Anyone know?<p>Volvo says change at 7500 miles but don't you usually change engine oil on a brand new engine at 500 miles and again at 3000 miles??<p>Would putting synthetic in it now not permit the engine to properly break-in?<p>thanks Joe
 

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Re: factory engine oil - is it synthetic?? V50 T5 (bmwr69s)

It is not Synthetic from the factory. I have never had to break in a new engine so I can't help you there. As far as the oil changes every 7,500 miles, I personal don't buy into that. That may work for a very un-spirited driver but I have always driven my cars a little harder then your average commuter so I have and will continue to always changed my oil every 3,500 to 4,000 miles with synthetic. <p>Oh, and congrats on your new V50! We need pics, color combo and what trans you have. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: factory engine oil - is it synthetic?? V50 T5 (mad matt)

I would complete the break-in period before changing to synthetic. so really just follow manufacturer's recommendations, and switch to synthetic at your first factory scheduled oil change.<br>
 

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Re: factory engine oil - is it synthetic?? V50 T5 (mad matt)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mad matt</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is not Synthetic from the factory. I have never had to break in a new engine so I can't help you there. As far as the oil changes every 7,500 miles, I personal don't buy into that. That may work for a very un-spirited driver but I have always driven my cars a little harder then your average commuter so I have and will continue to always changed my oil every 3,500 to 4,000 miles with synthetic. <p>Oh, and congrats on your new V50! We need pics, color combo and what trans you have. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well i will jump in here and say that most places in this world BUT money hungry Americans change their oil every 3k miles most its around 10k ....<p>But since i livebin America i get it done every 2,500 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: factory engine oil - is it synthetic?? V50 T5 (kick-ass)

and if you're using synthetic then yeah 7500 miles (as the manufacturer recommends) will be fine.
 

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I find that the synthetic allows the engine to run much smoother ! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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i agree... major difference between synthetic and dyno oil. I just switched to Mobil 1 and what a difference.
 

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Have any of you ever done an oil analysis to find out what is really going on?<p>If you are running extended intervals, be sure to get the total base analysis.<p><A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aforums.swedespeed.com+blackstone&btnG=Search" TARGET="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?h...earch</A><p>
 

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Re: factory engine oil - is it synthetic?? V50 T5 (bmwr69s)

When I got My '06 T5 in June of '05 I put about 2200-2300 miles on the factory oil and changed it over to Mobil I full synthetic. Car now has over 103,000 miles. Runs like a Swiss watch. I change the oil/filter every 4000-5000 miles depending on time of the year & usage. Short trips = more frequent oil/filter changes; long highway trips = less frequent oil/filter changes. <p> If You read the fine print in the owner's manual "Special or Severe Duty usage" requires more frequent oil & filter changes. That includes short trips, cold weather operation, city stop-and-go driving, towing or hauling heavy loads, and actually includes long periods of highway high speed cruising.<br> The Volvo manual may not actually have a "Severe Duty" service schedule but EVERY other vehicle I've ever had has had one and it's required service is at about 2/3rds the normal interval. <p> Last time this subject came up I commented that the most correct service interval would be to change oil & filter after so many gallons of gasoline burned, not miles driven. That allows for variations in speed, ambiant temp., and driving style & conditions, and whether You drive in city or highway conditions. But each owner has to decide what the magic number of gallons should be, but I'd suggest something between 150 and 250 gallons.
 

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Re: factory engine oil - is it synthetic?? V50 T5 (POWERSTROKE)

Thanks for all the replies.<p>I emailed Volvo USA and was told the oil is "a Castrol SYNTEC Blend". Does that mean its plain SYNTEC Blend or is there a special break-in SYNTEC Blend?<p>Volvo USA also said "The vehicle came with break-in synthetic oil. There is no break in period. Volvo recommends the oil be changed every 7500 miles or 1 year, which ever comes first. You can use full-synthetic oil, if you choose, at the first oil change."<p>So - should I leave oil and filter in till 7500 or change both out at 1500 and 4500 using SYNTEC Blend????<p>thanks Joe
 

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I really doubt anyone in the USA knows for sure what oil is put in at the factory in Belgium. <p> My car had 19 miles on the odometer when I drove it off the dealer's lot. I drove it about 25 miles home then took it to work 60 miles the next morning. I noticed the first day or so the engine warmed up to operating temp. VERY fast, like in less than a mile or so. These engines are VERY Tight when new. With 100,000 miles on the engine the car normally takes 4-5 miles to get up to temp now. The fast temp. rise is do to the increased friction of the new components. Wearing away and breaking in these tight components puts lots of small metal particles in the engine oil You want to remove as soon as possible. <p> You really don't say how long Your normal trips will be or how many miles You drive per year. But I think you would be much better off to change the oil & filter much earlier than Volvo suggests. If You drive a lot of short trips Your plan of changing at 1500 then 4500 should be fine. <p> A lot of cars come with synthetic oil from the factory, Our '99 Chevy Lumina sedan had Mobil I as factory fill and it ran great for the 80,000 miles We owned it so You can put full synthetic in right away. The service minder in these cars is a JOKE, a sensor just trips the "Service Soon" light after 7500 miles. That old Lumina had programming in the engine computer to keep track of cold starts, hours of operation, vehicle speed, engine and ambient air temp., etc. and actually calculated when oil/filter changes were required.<p> There's been polls on this forum about what oil people use, and Mobil I always seems to be the most popular choice by about a two to one margin. I personally think a 7500 mile service interval is too long for these engines especially with the PVC diaphram problem.
 

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I'm about to change my oil again, 35K coming up. I've been using Castrol Syntec, any of you use the new Castrol Edge? They claim 8x better protection that Mobil 1. I change oil every 5K so I just wonder if it's even worth it to make the switch since I'm running full synthetic anyway. Not too sure of the diff. between the two.
 

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When I had my S40 T5 AWD I did the first oil change at 3500 miles with a semi-synthetic (the standard oil). At 7500 I went to a full synthetic and changed it every 7500 w/ full synthetic from then on. That worked for me but I drove mostly on highways.<br>I figured BMW is ok w/ 15,000 mile synthetic oil intervals so 7500 would be fine in a Volvo ;-)<p>But do an oil-analysis at some point and see what's right for you.
 

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WILL - Oil Analysis is a great thing, I use it on my diesel-powered pickup every oil change at 2500-3000 miles, which since I got the S40 is once a year. Oil change & filter in it is well over $100 now for 14 quarts of oil and a filter. O/A test kit from the local CAT dealer is almost $20. <br> With a six quart case of Mobil I and a filter for the S40 costing less than $50 it really doesn't pay to run O/A on the S40. <p> Lots of people use Blackstone Labs for their diesel pickup O/A but their test kits are even more expensive. My local CAT lab always gets my results back in 2-3 days and they check for dissolved fuel, coolant, soot, and all metals. They also have baseline results for the brand & weight of oil and the brand and model of engine to compare Your test to. Be tough to do that with most labs on a Volve car especially when You're not even sure what oil is in the engine.
 

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<i>Hey bmwr69s, <br> <br> I just got back from my Volvo military sales dealer over here in the UK and was asking some questions about my vehicle, one of the questions were about oil. He said the oil that is put into the engine @ the factory is a light natural oil so it softens up the metal shards that are in the engine. He said the newer engines are built a litter better than the other years, the metal shards are suppose to be ‘very small’ now and the new natural soft oil is suppose to soften it to where there should be no problems with having a clogged oil filter or any other problems. Change oil & minor service 7,500 miles or 12 months, which ever 1st. At our 1st of 5 free oil change services the Volvo dealer WILL put synthetic oil in the engine. </i><p>APO,AE
 

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I think a lot of people would disagree with you about it not being worth it. Plenty of folks over on Volvospeed have used Blackstone Labs and have posted up the results. <br>I don't see the point of doing it every oil change, but if you know that you put in M1 5W-30 for example then you get it tested at 5,000 miles after putting it in, it will give you an idea of whether or not that is the right interval or if 7500 would be ok etc.<br>Worth doing once in my opinion.<br>
 

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<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> +1 Establishing your own baseline for extended change intervals is the way to go.<p>Powerstroke makes a good point, too: any or all heavy equipment or tractor dealer should be able to get you an analysis and often at a good price (for those operators the the cost of materials, labor and lost time makes an analysis very cost effective.) <p>Blackstone's advantage pobably is that they probably have a good consumer application results database.
 
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