Exhaust Bracket
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (PC Diesel)
The primary disadvantage is that every day you leave it on, another kitten gets waterboarded. So, its your conscience.<p>I've read some things here about how its a safety feature in case your in a collision in keeps the drive shaft from going into the back seat...but that seems a bit far fetched to me. Most believable explanation is that its a piece the assembly line uses to latch onto the car to pull it on down to each station so all the Swedish (or is it German?) guys/gals can attach their respective pieces and parts. Had mine off for a while now, and nothing has blown up...oh yeah, and my drive shaft is still intact <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
The primary disadvantage is that every day you leave it on, another kitten gets waterboarded. So, its your conscience.<p>I've read some things here about how its a safety feature in case your in a collision in keeps the drive shaft from going into the back seat...but that seems a bit far fetched to me. Most believable explanation is that its a piece the assembly line uses to latch onto the car to pull it on down to each station so all the Swedish (or is it German?) guys/gals can attach their respective pieces and parts. Had mine off for a while now, and nothing has blown up...oh yeah, and my drive shaft is still intact <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (michaelc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>michaelc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Most believable explanation is that its a piece the assembly line uses to latch onto the car to pull it on down to each station so all the Swedish (or is it German?) guys/gals can attach their respective pieces and parts. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What he said^. I've had two or three S60s, of all variants, come into our shop with the bracket bent. The last one was near verticle! Definitely take it off. I took mine off and there was no visible sign of damage, but upon close inspection of the drive shaft there is some slight scoring.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>michaelc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Most believable explanation is that its a piece the assembly line uses to latch onto the car to pull it on down to each station so all the Swedish (or is it German?) guys/gals can attach their respective pieces and parts. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What he said^. I've had two or three S60s, of all variants, come into our shop with the bracket bent. The last one was near verticle! Definitely take it off. I took mine off and there was no visible sign of damage, but upon close inspection of the drive shaft there is some slight scoring.
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (michaelc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>michaelc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I've read some things here about how its a safety feature in case your in a collision in keeps the drive shaft from going into the back seat...<p><B>THAT IS BS</B><p> Most believable explanation is that its a piece the assembly line uses to latch onto the car to pull it on down to each station <p><B>THIS IS TRUE</B><br><B><br> IF YOU DON'T REMOVE IT AND YOU HANG UP ON IT, IT WILL BEND THE EXHAUST INTO THE DRIVESHAFT CAUSING ABOUT $3000 IN DAMAGES, REMOVE IT ASAP!</B><br></TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>michaelc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I've read some things here about how its a safety feature in case your in a collision in keeps the drive shaft from going into the back seat...<p><B>THAT IS BS</B><p> Most believable explanation is that its a piece the assembly line uses to latch onto the car to pull it on down to each station <p><B>THIS IS TRUE</B><br><B><br> IF YOU DON'T REMOVE IT AND YOU HANG UP ON IT, IT WILL BEND THE EXHAUST INTO THE DRIVESHAFT CAUSING ABOUT $3000 IN DAMAGES, REMOVE IT ASAP!</B><br></TD></TR></TABLE>
Re: Exhaust Bracket (MancUnited1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MancUnited1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I took mine off and there was no visible sign of damage, but upon close inspection of the drive shaft there is some slight scoring. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That would be from the rain squeel. I had a scoring line on my drive shaft from where the resonator hit it in the heavy rains. <p>Also +1 with JRL
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MancUnited1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I took mine off and there was no visible sign of damage, but upon close inspection of the drive shaft there is some slight scoring. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That would be from the rain squeel. I had a scoring line on my drive shaft from where the resonator hit it in the heavy rains. <p>Also +1 with JRL
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (PC Diesel)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PC Diesel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long does it take to take off the exhaust bracket?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depends on whether you need to jack up the car or not.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PC Diesel</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long does it take to take off the exhaust bracket?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depends on whether you need to jack up the car or not.
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (michaelc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>michaelc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The primary disadvantage is that every day you leave it on, another kitten gets waterboarded. So, its your conscience.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh so true! <p>The bracket should be executed with extreme prejudice!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>michaelc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The primary disadvantage is that every day you leave it on, another kitten gets waterboarded. So, its your conscience.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh so true! <p>The bracket should be executed with extreme prejudice!
Re: Exhaust Bracket (850arrrsaylikepirate)
Damn thing is still there where I tossed it in November, hope it suffered during winter!<br>Only about $150-200 in immediate damages, but I might have a slightly bent driveshaft <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/755/cursedthing.jpg" BORDER="0">
Damn thing is still there where I tossed it in November, hope it suffered during winter!<br>Only about $150-200 in immediate damages, but I might have a slightly bent driveshaft <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/755/cursedthing.jpg" BORDER="0">
Re: Exhaust Bracket (05_s60r)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>05_s60r</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how fast can you take 2 bolts off?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And put the two bolts back in, unless you want that heat shield rattling all the time...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>05_s60r</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how fast can you take 2 bolts off?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And put the two bolts back in, unless you want that heat shield rattling all the time...
Re: Exhaust Bracket (skot53)
Mine was eaten by the hugely massive speed humps at the entrance to Avery Island in LA, at the Tobasco factory. There were two of them, the exactly width and height to thoroughly mangle the strap. Luckily the kind folks at Acadiana Mark Volvo took and look and bent it back, no charge.<p>I have since removed it, and replaced it with a very low profile strap of steel of my own design. It sits 1/8th of the inch lower than the driveshaft. One of these days I'll get around to grinding off the remaining hanger too.
Mine was eaten by the hugely massive speed humps at the entrance to Avery Island in LA, at the Tobasco factory. There were two of them, the exactly width and height to thoroughly mangle the strap. Luckily the kind folks at Acadiana Mark Volvo took and look and bent it back, no charge.<p>I have since removed it, and replaced it with a very low profile strap of steel of my own design. It sits 1/8th of the inch lower than the driveshaft. One of these days I'll get around to grinding off the remaining hanger too.
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (n23)
There is NO reason to install anything in place of this strap / bracket / hanger / squirrel decapitator / driveshaft killa.
There is NO reason to install anything in place of this strap / bracket / hanger / squirrel decapitator / driveshaft killa.
I removed mine twice!! I took it in to the dealer to get the rain squeel fixed, they put it back on along with rain squeel fix thingy (btw its the second gen fix for the rain squeel and it does actually work!!). Stupid dealer found it in the back of the car and put it back on!!
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Re: Exhaust Bracket (Needsdecaf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is NO reason to install anything in place of this strap / bracket / hanger / squirrel decapitator / driveshaft killa. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Or if you actually want to replace it...I went this way <A HREF="http://takspeed.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23&zenid=0950d2c26d0db4d68324f0b63febab60" TARGET="_blank">http://takspeed.com/shop/index...bab60</A><p>If not, def go with Needsdecaf's reply <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is NO reason to install anything in place of this strap / bracket / hanger / squirrel decapitator / driveshaft killa. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Or if you actually want to replace it...I went this way <A HREF="http://takspeed.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23&zenid=0950d2c26d0db4d68324f0b63febab60" TARGET="_blank">http://takspeed.com/shop/index...bab60</A><p>If not, def go with Needsdecaf's reply <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>so_calR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Stupid dealer found it in the back of the car and put it back on!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>thats all kinds of awesome
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>so_calR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Stupid dealer found it in the back of the car and put it back on!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>thats all kinds of awesome
The bracket did serve a purpose but was far to low. <br>A drive shaft that drops and is forced into the groud while traveling/crashing can transmit a great amount of energy through the shaft . The possibility or rebound is very real once detached and it can puncture the passenger cabin. <p>If the safety wire fits well then its a good idea.<br> <br>In the last 20 years of reconstructing crashes I have only seen this a few times. It is a rare occurance to have it penetrate the cabin. Driveshafts on many vehciles do break away from the vehicle due to poor maintanance or a collision. The detachment is much more common than the penetration.
Re: Exhaust Bracket (PC Diesel)
I saw the front universal joint fail on a car doing a burn-out from a stoplight...<p>he was already accelerating into the middle of the interesection when it failed, and the front end of the driveshaft immediately caught on some road imperfection, and the back of the car shot up about 6 or 8 feet like it was trying a pole vault (it was stunningly sudden, and then seemed to hang in the air like Michael Jordan...)<p> and then came crashing down with a huge boom, that flattened both tires and the rear suspension. <p>car was a wreck ... but it was probably the most awesome car stunt I've seen.<p>I don't believe the tall tale about the bracket's purpose to be an assembly line hook-- just look at it -- it you were making a hook would it look like that, and be located there ???<p>From the design I would say it has the dual function of stiffening that area of the prop tunnel, and the main function of preventing the propshaft from falling onto the ground in the event of just what I described above. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by petew at 4:24 PM 6-8-2009</i>
I saw the front universal joint fail on a car doing a burn-out from a stoplight...<p>he was already accelerating into the middle of the interesection when it failed, and the front end of the driveshaft immediately caught on some road imperfection, and the back of the car shot up about 6 or 8 feet like it was trying a pole vault (it was stunningly sudden, and then seemed to hang in the air like Michael Jordan...)<p> and then came crashing down with a huge boom, that flattened both tires and the rear suspension. <p>car was a wreck ... but it was probably the most awesome car stunt I've seen.<p>I don't believe the tall tale about the bracket's purpose to be an assembly line hook-- just look at it -- it you were making a hook would it look like that, and be located there ???<p>From the design I would say it has the dual function of stiffening that area of the prop tunnel, and the main function of preventing the propshaft from falling onto the ground in the event of just what I described above. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by petew at 4:24 PM 6-8-2009</i>
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