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Okay, I know that the general consensus here is to remove the bracket. I tried to have my dealer do it and he wouldn't. ("Volvo didn't say too. I aint taking it off"). It sounds as if I can slide under the car without jack or ramps and take care of it myself with a 10 mm socket. And since I have a loaded down weekend of long distance travel with my family planned, it seems like now's the time.<p>My question is do I need to add washers to keep the heat shield in place? It sounds as if some folks have just reinserted the bolts, whereas others have added washers first. If they are needed, what size?<p>Thanks.
 

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (pktojd)

I just put back on what I took off (minus the bracket of course) and have had no issues.<p>I have the sport kit and did need to use a set of ramps to get under the car. <p>Took about 15 minutes.<p>-Ben
 

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (pktojd)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pktojd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay, I know that the general consensus here is to remove the bracket. I tried to have my dealer do it and he wouldn't. ("Volvo didn't say too. I aint taking it off"). It sounds as if I can slide under the car without jack or ramps and take care of it myself with a 10 mm socket. And since I have a loaded down weekend of long distance travel with my family planned, it seems like now's the time.<p>My question is do I need to add washers to keep the heat shield in place? It sounds as if some folks have just reinserted the bolts, whereas others have added washers first. If they are needed, what size?<p>Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's a squeeze to get under there, but it can be done. If you can you should get the car up a bit, drive it up on some 2x6 boards (the 1.75" lift was just enough for me to get under there). Or if there's a 'step' from your driveway to your garage put the front wheels in the garage and the rear on the driveway. That's another easy way to get some extra room to get at those bolts.<p>I'd say washers are needed, get ones that are around the size of a quarter (that's about 1" diameter, I think), if you're not sure go for the bigger ones.<p>LTA<p><br>
 

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I just took that sucker off and put the bolts right back on and everything is just fine... don't waste extra time or money with washers (even though they're probably like 50 cents or something haha)
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>titaniumR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just took that sucker off and put the bolts right back on and everything is just fine... don't waste extra time or money with washers (even though they're probably like 50 cents or something haha)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If there's a home depot near you or you're worried....do the washers.<p>If not, don't worry about it. My car has 40,000 miles, and at least 20,000 of them are on a washerless heat shield.
 

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (LTA)

Go to Home depot, Lowe's, or your local h'ware or autoparts and ask for a "fender washer". They have a larger outside diameter for a given ID.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...drive it up on some 2x6 boards (the 1.75" lift was just enough for me to get under there)...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>How long has it been since 2x boards were 1.75"? 40 years? I think they're 1.5" now. (or is that a Canuck thing?) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (ljjones)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ljjones</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>How long has it been since 2x boards were 1.75"? 40 years? I think they're 1.5" now. (or is that a Canuck thing?) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Haha, that's funny <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> Yeah, it's a Canuck thing but more likely the error came from my conversion from Metric <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> (also a Canuck thing, eh!)<p>Seriously though, I ended up making a quick cheap ramp form 2x6's left from my deck. I cut three of them at about 55deg and can stack them 1, 2, or 3 high to get the car up safely and easily (it's important to fasten them together when you stack them, otherwise they WILL come shooting out and that's DANGEROUS!)<p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (LTA)

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (ljjones)

Is the bracket issue a problem on the '05's too? If there is a TNN on it shouldn't the dealer fix it for free?<p>
 

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Re: Exhaust Bracket Removal: Add Washers? (jazee)

Yes, it is an issue.<p>There is no TNN. You are confusing it with the rain squeal, for which there is a TNN and the fix is a revised hanging bracket.<p>The bracket that causes the problems when hit does nothing, but VOLVO will not admit that there is a problem, so there is no fix. I'd say if you have your car in for service and it's on the lift, the'd do it for free. If not, it's an easy DIY.<p>
 

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Thanks. I haven't heard the rain squeal but if I decide to keep my resonator on I should probably pretend I hear it the next time I take it into the dealer just to eliminate the potential?<p>You said the bracket that causes the problems when hit "does nothing" I'm confused here. If it does nothing when hit, then why remove it. (forgive me, I'm catching up here). Or did you mean does nothing as far as the rain squeal?<br>
 

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The bracket itself doesn't serve any purpose. It was put there for manufacturing purposes. When you hit it, it definetely does do something. It ruins your drive shaft and costs you $2000. Volvo won't warranty it. Just take it off.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bracket itself doesn't serve any purpose. It was put there for manufacturing purposes. When you hit it, it definetely does do something. It ruins your drive shaft and costs you $2000. Volvo won't warranty it. Just take it off. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly. It serves no functional purpose on the car, unless you count that it will keep your exhaust from hitting the ground if it ever rusts through and drops off. Not likely.<p>What happens if you hit it hard enough is it pushes the exhaust up into the driveshaft and bends it out of round. Take it off ASAP.<p>As far as the rain squeal, you can certainly have them pre-emptively try to fix it. I wouldn't, as all they do is remount the exhaust a little lower. Plus, I dont' think that it really does much. I had it done twice on my car, and it didn't work.
 

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Yeah, take it off. I learned the hard way. New exhaust, new driveshaft, had to fight with the insurance guy who wanted to charge me "betterment" on a driveshaft and a stainless exhaust. "Betterment"--it isn't even a freaking word. <p>Hey, if someone crashes into me and dents the side of my car and I have to take it to have some local bonehead try to paint the thing (which is obviously not as good as the original paint), do I get to charge them "worsement"?<p>Remove the bracket.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jazee</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where is it located?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>As soon as you can see the underside of the car, you'll see it. It's that big eyesore sticking out, ready to ruin your exhaust and driveshaft the minute you go up a steep enough grade.
 

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Re: (PhilUp)

Do I need to do this on a 06? I have a pretty steep drive into the house and I have speed bumps from hell at work.
 

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Not sure if the 06's have them. Take a look underneath the car. You can see it without having to put the car on a lift or jack.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure if the 06's have them. Take a look underneath the car. You can see it without having to put the car on a lift or jack.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My 'O6 had it, I think they ALL do. Definately best to remove it.<p>LTA<br>
 
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