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so i got my car back today after i was having the power package installed and i can swear the car feels less powerful than before. the throttle response isnt great and the turbo takes much longer to kick in. the rev limiter also wasnt removed. i feel like when i used to step on it befor the mods it would put me back in my seat more than now. the only positive is high rpm performance. it definitly pulls harder after 5500 rpm. is this totally messed up or have other people experience this?
 

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Hmm.. I hread that the Evolve Power package is extremely dissapointing in the power gains and I have heard of people say it ddin't feel much faster than stock. What a waist of 3 K
 

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so disappointing. i could actually return the ecu and keep the down pipe and exhaust because there is a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. would it be fine to use a different chip with the other evolve parts?
 

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Yes it would be ok to use another ecu. Return their program and go for the IPD stage2 ecu. I have a GT with just and oai, 3" exhaust and IPD stage2 ecu. The pull in ALL gears can be plain scary at times(for the passengers that is) I am consitantly pulling mid to high 5's 0-60.
 

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They do have a specific program for the manual tranny. It is even faster than the GT program. You would be pulling low to mid 5's 0-60. Just let them know what mods you have and they will custom tune the ecu for your specific needs.
 

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is there someone at ipd i should contact specifically? they dont have any of this info on their website
 

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Sorry. You are correct. Talk to Ken at IPD about when the new 06 program will be done. I know that IPD has 2 cars on the road right now (06 R's) both manual tranny with ecu upgrades. One is having a couple of glitches and the other is fine. If you talk to Ken he will know exactly what is up with the 06 ecu program. He is the guy who does the ecu upgrade for IPD. If he does not know the answers to your questions (he should) then he will contact Marco. Marco is the guy who writes the programs for IPD. Tell him Rick Feist recommeded you.Cheers, Rick
 

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has anyone else experienced problems with the evolve ecu upgrade? im curious if I am the acception or the rule.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dhellz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone else experienced problems with the evolve ecu upgrade? im curious if I am the acception or the rule.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not to take away from your experience (positive or negative), but to simply add a different perspective for you to consider:<p>Stock, the power delivery is NOT linear at all. You have turbo lag until about 2500 rpm, and then you have a sudden rush of power that is all out crazy until about 5000 rpm, then it hits a brick wall.<p><i>Most</i> aftermarket tunes are written specifically to make the power delivery much more linear, and therefore make the vehicle more driveable. The R is notorious for being deceptively quick, so it's possible that this more linear power delivery may fool you into thinking your vehicle is slower than it really is. <p>I'm not saying this is <i>actually</i> the case (that your car is faster but you think it's slower), I'm just saying that's a good possibility.<p>If you really want to know for sure, put your car on a dyno and do some runs. Then have your dealer flash your car back to stock, and do dyno runs again. You can always get it reflashed to the tune for about 50 bucks.
 

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Re: evolve power package (dhellz)

Dustin, You have not given this package a chance. The vehicle and yourself need to adapt. You wasted no time to come on here and complain about your car. You just picked it up on June 9th @ 3:00.<br>You need to remove yourself from this forum for a while and get out and enjoy your car and its new mods.
 

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I've got the Svenske package (very similar to the Evolve package) and my car is a BEAST. Give it some time to "learn" and make sure to give it good fuel in the process. Hopefully all will be well. Please keep us posted.
 

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Be carefull with the ECU tune. I had the "newer" tune and had boost spikes and rough idling not to mention the soldering was poor to say the least (they solder a chip on the ECU and do NOT simply flash it.)
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dhellz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is it better to flash than solder?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Flashing the original chip means you are not putting another chip onto the board of the ECU. Soldering on another chip means you're at the mercy of how good the soldering job is some have been known to break off. Also, if the person doing it is careless it is possible to ruin the ECU (unlikely, I know).<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dhellz</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is it better to flash than solder?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>because there is no hardware additions and it's easier to reflash something and harder to mess up/more "reliable" than a solder, especially when the soldering does not look like it was professionaly done.
 

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I can second the caution on soldered chips.<p>I had a soldered chip in my passat way back when. (and a spare stock ECU as well)<p>The thing left me stranded a whole bunch of times on the side of the road before it was diagnosed as the chip. I'd be driving along, and all of a sudden the car would just stop.<p>I'd try to start it for a while, to no avail, then for some reason it would just restart.<p>Then one rainy night, it just died on the side of the road and just wouldn't restart at all. It was absolutely pouring out. I got it towed to the dealer (I didn't have a chance to swap with my stock ECU) and they figured out it was the chip eventually, so I ended up swapping the the stock one in until I could drive to one of the chip's resellers to have it fixed.<p>Eventually, I realized the reason behind the failure pattern. Every time the car would die, I'd try to start it for a while, then open the hood and have a look, then close the hood and try again. The smack of the hood closing was enough to reseat the connection for a while. On the night it was raining I didn't open my hood. Turned out to be a cold solder joint.<p>---<p>To be fair, I've heard of ECUs getting pithed by trouble during the flashing process (softloaders). If you kill the power mid-flash, turn the key by accident, or anything dreadfully stupid, you may toast the program.
 

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