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I had my car loaded up today with 4 adult males. Coming into the parking lot the back part of my exhaust scraped a little. I've also had a few occasions where I could not clear road obstructions without hitting the exhaust. There's not a lot of ground clearance under there.<p>How durable are these things anyway? Should I look into ways of raising it up somehow?
 

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Re: Evolve exhaust owners--how's your ground clearance? (frankhoffy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had my car loaded up today with 4 adult males. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>you would be having more fun, and scraping less if you started loading up with four 18 year old GIRLS... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>ha ha...just kidding..<p>seriously - i haven't scraped on anything and I have the same exhaust.
 

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Re: Evolve exhaust owners--how's your ground clearance? (23109VC)

So the straight pipe replaces that resonator, correct? I suppose that would solve my clearance problem.
 

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Hey Frank I don't think its the resonator that hits its the rear portion. I have the Svenske-lite set up and I too have had trouble straddling rocks and other road debris. It seems to be where the rear silencer is angled down to the middle of the car.<br>Jonathan
 

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No clearence problems here. I have the full Evolve set up minus the fancy Red stuff. I put warrior marks on the front valance every once in a while, but no problems with full loads. I've even loaded the back trunk with about 10 cender blocks and 2 riders.
 

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By the way, I work with a bunch of stiffs. I think I'm the only one in the office who likes fast cars and loud music.<p>I'm going to try to take a picture tonight. My camera phone won't send!
 

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Mash, I hope you aren't quoting "cool as Ice" as in Vanilla Ice...oh, ummm no I haven't seen it ;p I have had one scrape with two people in the rear coming out of a incline at a gas station, but with the stock exahust and the dreaded bracket. Thinking of going to a nice aftermarket once Uncle Sam gives me my allowance
 

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This is the best shot I could get.<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/frankhoffy/Car/P3230167Medium.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JonnyEnglish</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess Frank has 450lbs of stereo equipment too <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I balanced it out by dropping the spare and hardware. I'd like to weigh the car sometime to see where I'm at.
 

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Re: Evolve exhaust owners--how's your ground clearance? (frankhoffy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There's not a lot of ground clearance under there.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>What are you talking about? Doug has at least 3" of ground clearance with no one in the car... (empty car, Evolve Springs/Evolve Exhaust - Note it is about the same ground clearance as the profile of his tires, well below the suspension). <p><IMG SRC="http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/769/1004835medium8yu.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Just because it drops to like 2" with people in the car doesn't make it a bad idea... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Very long and painful story short... I've been the garage <B>at least </B>two days a week and have been dishing out a ton of cash since I got the darn thing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> I believe the area you are hitting is what Kelly just showed you. Unfortunately, the rest of "my" exhaust will hang to close to the underbody of the car and rattle excessively if is positioned in the area that the OE stock flowed through, which would allevate the low hanging pipe problem all together. It seems the fit for mine is about 4-6 inches off the OE (see above pic), so it either hangs way to low -- or I get excessive rattling at the catalytic converter joint. <p>My German mechanics have tried everything they know, and I've even taken it to two separate garages with the same results. Non of the mechanics have thought the product was worth what I/we paid, and non of them have thought that it was specifically built for the S60R. I am out of ideas over here, because it cost a ton of cash to get it here in the first place--plus a 3.5 hour drive to an international customs terminal... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Oh yeah, one more tid-bit of info... With the exhaust in its' current position the back of my car seems to get VERY loose cruising on the autobahn -- +130mph. I did not feel this sensation before...EVER...so I can only conclude-- without any official aerodynamic testing-- that this pipe that is now hanging very low off my car, and very close to the road has something to do with it. <p>Sorry, one more thing. Can a couple of you take a look at the inside of your exhaust tips to see if the interior metal screening in separating from the interior wall... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5396/muffler2copy2kn.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Evolve exhaust owners--how's your ground clearance? ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are you talking about? Doug has at least 3" of ground clearance with no one in the car... (empty car, Evolve Springs/Evolve Exhaust - Note it is about the same ground clearance as the profile of his tires, well below the suspension). <p>Just because it drops to like 2" with people in the car doesn't make it a bad idea... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>His looks pretty much the same as mine. I just hit it at a bad angle I guess. Plus, the guys in the back weren't exactly thin. The guy directly behind me said it felt like it was right under his feet.<p>I don't think this is something I will throw money at. Just wondering how the others were faring out there.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the best shot I could get.<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/frankhoffy/Car/P3230167Medium.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Those hangers/mounts are far off/ or the welds/exhaust. I can take a picture of my exhaust to show how it should rest on the stock hangers.<p>That exhaust is crooked and should be adjusted!!!!! For starters!<p>Kevin
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KVB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can take a picture of my exhaust to show how it should rest on the stock hangers.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That would be very helpful <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Well you could use some oval tubing and that would buy you a bit more clearance.
 

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Frankhoffy, <p>When I had the Evolve exhaust I would scrape ALL the time coming out of my (basement) garage--as long as there were people in the back seat. I tried to angle the car in all sorts of ways and it didn't work. Even driving by myself, I recall it scraping unless I angled slightly. <p>There is definitely less ground clearance with the exhaust compared to stock.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the best shot I could get.<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/frankhoffy/Car/P3230167Medium.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wow, if exhaust is pulling that far over to make the bumper opening, that is just shoddy craftmanship. Sorry, gotta call it like I see it. I <B>know</B> Evolve has seen this thread, so maybe they will help make it fit right Frank. <p>But your example helps explain why Volvo mechanics couldn't get Doug's Evolve exhaust to fit. I got called at work late to see if I had any information on how to make it fit, I didn't and it still isn't right as he posted. Maybe Evolve will help with some of the cost he has incurred paying people to try and make it fit??
 

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Just curious, but has anyone else also experienced a garage not being able to get the joint between the Evolve catalytic converter and the Evolve exhaust pipe to fit correctly... i.e., not even close to flush and leaks exhaust??? During one of many trips to the Volvo dealership that is over 30-minutes (autobahn speed) each way, my mechanic ingeniously rigged a Nissan gasket to seal the large air gap. FYI, he used what he had, because it would have taken over 10 (at ~$10 a piece) of the OE gaskets stacked together to seal it <p>Here is what the joint looked like before the gasket got put in. Sorry for the camera phone quality... <p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2741/mufflercopy6yh.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <p>Evolve has responded to my numerous e-mails and times pictures -- I was told that Matt tried the OE gasket himself, and that it should have fit... <p>One more thing to check... the Evolve tip has fallen on my sports package numerous times because of a loose fitting clamp --actually the clamp cannot hold regardless of how tight it is. As recommended by Don, I directed the same creative mechanic to weld the joint-- which is about 2ft behind the one above. This finally held the tip, but unfortunately damage has already been done. The heat from the exhaust warped and stripped the paint off of the top of the skirt. <p>Obviously, I am frustrated and Evolve has already responded in an attempt to fix these issues. I really am an Evolve fan...just like <B>ALOT </B>of you on SS. I am confident now that these issues have been discussed that Don, Keith, and Matt (Evolve staff) will bend over backwards trying to ensure the quality of their merchandise, and the satifaction of their loyal customers...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by D-Autobahn Guy at 7:10 AM 3-26-2006</i>
 
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