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I just upgraded another wagon and I'm now convinced these cars run MUCH better WITH the new software
 

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Re: ETM software, convinced now that it is VERY GOOD (JRL)

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bender</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> It made a huge difference for me</TD></TR></TABLE><br>2 questions:<p>1. when was the new software release<br>2. difference how? can you elaborate?<p>thanks
 

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Re: ETM software, convinced now that it is VERY GOOD (blackTT55)

Software was released in March, according to Volvo, but the dealers didn't see it until April. They are downloading it on all cars automatically when the cars come in. Haven't had my download yet, so don't know the impact.
 

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Re: ETM software, convinced now that it is VERY GOOD (blackTT55)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>blackTT55</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>2 questions:<p>1. when was the new software release<br>2. difference how? can you elaborate?<p>thanks</TD></TR></TABLE><br>It's the ETM software recall. <br>Car runs much smoother, car is faster but the best part is it's MUCH quicker and has quicker throttle response.<br>(BOTH cars felt the same way after the software)<br>If you have a 99 thru 01 it will automatically be updated when you go to the dealer.<br>(Make sure to tell them <B>not</B> to upgrade, in no uncertain terms, if you have an ECU upgrade (ipd, BSR, etc.) as it WILL wipe it out)
 

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Throttle response is what I have noticed most, but god it is much quicker too... not even a comparison... great update till i get an upgrade
 

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Re: ETM software, convinced now that it is VERY GOOD (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>It's the ETM software recall. <br>If you have a 99 thru 01 it will automatically be updated when you go to the dealer.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Lat time my car was at the dealership was in late April to get my keys programmed and I didn't notice any software update being performed on the receipt slip. Do I have to request the software update? Is it a freebie? If not, how much for the update?
 

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Re: ETM software, convinced now that it is VERY GOOD (blackTT55)

Your dealer's supposed to do it automatically, it's a <B>recall</B> and (obviously) free.<br>If they did do it you should have noticed your car was running better. If not, ask them <B>why they didn't do the RECALL which they're<U> supposed</U> to do</B>
 

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99 thru 01 turbos and some 02 non turbos<br>This is a US recall but I would think/hope that this software should be availbale around the world soon
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">99 thru 01 turbos and some 02 non turbos<br>This is a US recall but I would think/hope that this software should be availbale around the world soon</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I just checked my work order slip and I was there on April 19 to have my keys programmed and they did not mention or offer any ETM software update. Was the software update release out on April 19?
 

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JRL:<p>You mentioned 99-01 turbos & some 02 non-turbos...<p>I experienced the common ETM headaches with my 99 non turbo & dropped some serious cash to replace it (I believe twice in the car's lifetime). I recently mailed in my request for a refund (received no letter, printed one from a previous post/link). <p>Is my car excluded from this recall? Will my request for reimbursement likey be denied?<p>(The dealer receipts I have clearly indicate the problems were ETM related.)<p><br>Thanks for any info...<p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Taleof2Bricks2</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRL:<p>You mentioned 99-01 turbos & some 02 non-turbos...<p>I experienced the common ETM headaches with my 99 non turbo & dropped some serious cash to replace it (I believe twice in the car's lifetime). I recently mailed in my request for a refund (received no letter, printed one from a previous post/link). <p>Is my car excluded from this recall? Will my request for reimbursement likey be denied?<p>(The dealer receipts I have clearly indicate the problems were ETM related.)<p><br>Thanks for any info...<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>IF you had the ETM replaced once, twice, ten times <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> , IF you have the receipts for an ETM replacement you WILL get paid back for the job(s)<br>I've already received TWO checks for the two cars I had done last year<br>NO denials with proof of the work
 

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Thanks for the info....<p>It's been about 6 weeks since I mailed my request in, so hopefully in another few weeks I'll be seeing something from Volvo.<p>
 

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It was taking about 8 weeks 3 months ago.<br>Unless they sped up the process, wait 2 more weeks, then send them a letter asking where the check is.
 

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BSR updated my PPC for this ETM software version. The throttle mapping is the same now. Before the BSR map was much quicker that the stock. (I am talking about hte throttle response, not how fast the car is).<p>I would not know if the new map is much better than before, the only thing I got from this is a horrible idle, the car almost stalls when shifting from D to P. Maybe I need ETM cleaning, there was a hint of hesitation around idle before. <p>As aside: after reflashing the BSR software this time, the engine mapping was all over the place, the car idled like a Trabant for a few seconds.
 

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How would you not know? If you had the updated software installed you must have at least driven it home before you reinstalled the BSR. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>BTW, I think you were hosed. I'm not aware of <B>ANY </B>aftermarket ECU tuner that has an upgrade<B> yet</B> to go over the new ETM (ECU) upgrade and as I said, in STOCK form the throttle response is MUCH better (quicker and smoother) than before
 

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Re: ETM software, convinced now that it is VERY GOOD (JRL)

I recently registered on this forum and noticed some of your posts, it seems you have been dealing with volvos for a while!<br>I am looking for an 850R Wagon...any sugestions where to look for one?<br>Is there a significant difference in performance between the 850glt and the 850R, from the specs/reviews I have noticed that you get an extra 20hp for the 850R and the other extras as rims etc.<br>Even though I do enjoy fast cars I do not drive crazy in terms of high speeds, I do enjoy some good pick up to get me out of situations such as merging etc.<br>Any input is greatly appreciated!<br>Thanks,<br>Nick.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How would you not know? If you had the updated software installed you must have at least driven it home before you reinstalled the BSR. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe I'm stupid? Or maybe not. There's a difference, I am saying that I would not know if it's for better or worse, is all. Maybe there's better pickup, but that's offset by the crappy idle.<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>BTW, I think you were hosed. I'm not aware of <B>ANY </B>aftermarket ECU tuner that has an upgrade<B> yet</B> to go over the new ETM (ECU) upgrade and as I said, in STOCK form the throttle response is MUCH better (quicker and smoother) than before</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You believe what you want. I uploaded the new software from the car into PPC, sent it to BSR, and they sent it back to me after a few days. What BSR does when read-car occurs, they update their engine mappings over the stock flash file. Now the idle and the throttle map feel exactly the same as after campaign 155 load, so I am fairly sure they (BSR) did not overwrite (all of) it. There are other more significant changes in campaign 155 than the throttle map, those are related to how the throttle position measurement data is used in the control loop. This is to prevent stalling. I see no reason why BSR would meddle with throttle feedback loop.<p>But this is neither here or there, the important thing is that I got my kickass tuning back after Volvo overwrote it. I don't really care how the car behaves in stock condition.<br>
 
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