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Ok, I've got an 04 GT with 106000 on the clock. Just got it back from a really good tech that said aside from the turbo, the internals of the motor are in top notch shape and the tranny is great. The reason I had him go over it was because I plan on doing some upgrades. I know I need to do all of the mounts and braces but here is the good stuff: custom(not a premade) 3" downpipe with race cat, 3" intercooler with mandrel bend 2.5" tubing, Rica tune(with provisions for the extra mods) and finally, a rebuilt and upgraded turbo from Bloush. <p>Now, with all that said, and staying on the safe side of total motor detonation, what would be best guesses on true wheel horse? And I do have an appointment at a 4wheel dyno to get baselines done.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>firehawk618</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">100hp per wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>this
 

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THe engine might achieve that but because he has a GT, wheel HP will be much much less than that. Torque delete is the way to go for a GT.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kmagnuss</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>this</TD></TR></TABLE><p>is wayyyyy offfffffffffff<p>considering both of you don't know the turbo upgrade, how much boost, and who is tuning, along with what kind of dyno . . . .<p>so to the original poster, explain the above . . .
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mike_c70</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THe engine might achieve that but because he has a GT, wheel HP will be much much less than that. Torque delete is the way to go for a GT. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe. <p>Here's Tiger's sig to give an idea what you can get an '04 GT to:<p><br>Tigers1981<br>Swedespeed Member<br>(100%)<p>Access Level Normal User<br>Full Name John Brian Crout<br>Email Address [email protected]<br>Location Lawrenceville GA USA<br>Age 48<br>AIM Name jbriancrout<br>Occupation Director<br>Year, Make & Model of Car Owned 2004 Volvo S60R<p>User Signature<p>2004 S60R GT 161k+ mi; <b>361 WHP, 401 WTQ</b> on TORCO and Royal Purple with upgraded KKK24 turbo from Viva, Bell Intercooler FMIC, Aquamist system, IPD stage 2.5 flash w/tq limiter removed, Viva Volvo Trans cooler, Eurosport CAI, Unorthodox lightweight pulley, VST-rev kit, 2 WGate turns, custom 3" exhaust high flow cats custom 3" downpipe, IPD track sway bars, QBX end links, QBX strut bar conv, IPD spring stiffeners, Ultraracing strut tower and lower front braces, 18x9 Privat Sekt wheels 20 lbs ea (black)<p>And that's more mods than you're figuring.
 

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Re: Estimated wheel horse??? (Overun73)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Overun73</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just got it back from a really good tech that said aside from the turbo, the internals of the motor are in top notch shape and the tranny is great.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>So he took your motor apart? Did he change the timing belt yet?
 

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Well, it seems that just about everything that is in Tiger's sig is what I am about to do aside for the Viva Turbo, and that is going to be very similar, tha aquamist system and the light weight pulleys. <p>I seem to have my answer, although I was hoping for much more than what Tiger is getting. I roughly estimated 450 at the crank with a 15% loss in the driveline giving between 370 to 385 at the wheels.<p>And the tune will be by Rica and torque limit removed, the dyno is a Dynojet awd and the turbo will be rebuilt and upgraded to the same specs as the turbos used on the Porshe 996 twin after getting them done at Bloush turbo.
 

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Sounds like you bought the wrong car, my friend. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The R aint a Subie, getting 450hp at the crank is basically flirting with disaster all the time. If one little thing isn't optimal, you're going to have expensive repair bills. 450 is probably right at the upper-threshold for this block with stock internals, so, be warned... and good luck <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Estimated wheel horse??? (Overun73)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Overun73</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...that said aside from the turbo...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What did he say about the turbo?
 

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Re: Estimated wheel horse??? (S60R1)

Yes the timing belt was changed along with new top-end gaskets and seals.<p>So I should be shooting for 400 or just below at the crank?<p>And your right, it isn't a suby and I would never want it to be. I am only looking for getting the most(safely) that can be gotten for this wonder of a car.
 

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Re: Estimated wheel horse??? (Overun73)

Oh, sorry, about the turbo, he said that the passage bearings were a little over worn. The reason I had him looking at it in the first place was due to oil usage. He said that the bearings(bushings) were worn and that I should have it replaced or rebuilt before it got any worse and the turbo seized all together.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Overun73</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, it seems that just about everything that is in Tiger's sig is what I am about to do aside for the Viva Turbo, and that is going to be very similar, tha aquamist system and the light weight pulleys. <p>I seem to have my answer, although I was hoping for much more than what Tiger is getting. I roughly estimated 450 at the crank with a 15% loss in the driveline giving between 370 to 385 at the wheels.<p>And the tune will be by Rica and torque limit removed, the dyno is a Dynojet awd and the turbo will be rebuilt and upgraded to the same specs as the turbos used on the Porshe 996 twin after getting them done at Bloush turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>that and Tiger was in FWD mode, getting 370 to 385 at the wheels with AWD is not going to work with the turbo upgrade, sorry<p>in fact, the upgrade will barely even make it to 450 hp if that . . .
 

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Re: (TurboR850)

More likely right around where OP is looking now. Just under 400, <i>maybe</i> on a good day, good dyno pull, 400. Judging by what I've read around here, anyway, that's more likely. Just do it! If max hp isnt a necessity, do it and find out. I know I'd like to see the results <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JoeLvo</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More likely right around where OP is looking now. Just under 400, <i>maybe</i> on a good day, good dyno pull, 400. Judging by what I've read around here, anyway, that's more likely. Just do it! If max hp isnt a necessity, do it and find out. I know I'd like to see the results <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>crank (bhp) ? probably a bit more then 400 i would say with a good tune
 
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