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Electric XC40/C40 become RWD and gets drivetrain update.
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If this is all true, it's great news across the board (except for price hikes of course). Sounds like Volvo is committed to constantly improving their EV tech. Very exciting! Thanks for sharing, @Frederik8888.
So, we are then going to discuss RWD Volvos within the "FWD & AWD Volvos" subforum?
A big update of the forum structure is overdue. Electric Volvos (as well as Polestar 2, 3 and beyond) should finally get their own "Electric Volvos" section. I wrote it already in the suggestion thread.
A big update of the forum structure is overdue. Electric Volvos (as well as Polestar 2, 3 and beyond) should finally get their own "Electric Volvos" section. I wrote it already in the suggestion thread.
It seems that P2 will also go RWD.for MY24
The polestar car will produce more power than the duo from Volvo
P2
The polestar car will produce more power than the duo from Volvo
P2
- Standard range: 69kwh / 270 hp / 6,4s 0-62mph / 321 miles WLTP ( up 24 miles)
- Long range: 82kwh / 300 hp / 6,2s 0-62mph / 394 miles WLTP (up 52 miles)
- Long range AWD: 82kwh / 420 hp / 4,5s 0-62mph / 369 miles WLTP (up 69 miles)
- Long range AWD performance: 82kwh / 475 hp / 4,2s 0-62mph / 367 miles WLTP
- Standard range: 69kwh / 240 hp / 7,4s 0-62mph / 295 miles WLTP
- Long range: 82kwh / 250 hp / 7,4s 0-62mph / 330 miles WLTP
- Long range AWD: 82kwh / 410 hp / 4,7s 0-62mph / 315 miles WLTP
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Nice!
Where did you see that?
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What’s the rationale behind Volvo (and Polestar) moving to more RWD biased or RWD cars? FWD was about space saving and coincidently but not a driver but FWD better in the snow and ice. Why the preference or switch back to RWD now?
Agreed. It seems an odd choice... Especially if the RWD versions are offered in northern regions...
Like many other manufacturers do, the AWD has now two different types of motors to increase range. The previous setup with 2 identicals ineffective150kW motors is no more.
The new setup consists of a 183kW permanent magnet e-motor on the rear axle and a new 117kW asynchronous electric motor on the front axle.
For the single motor variant and some economy of scale at the factory, Volvo, (like Tesla, VW, etc...) just remove the asynchronous motor in the front.
The new setup consists of a 183kW permanent magnet e-motor on the rear axle and a new 117kW asynchronous electric motor on the front axle.
For the single motor variant and some economy of scale at the factory, Volvo, (like Tesla, VW, etc...) just remove the asynchronous motor in the front.
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Thanks medels. Is it not just as straightforward to remove the rear motor and just fit the front one for single motor variants? I guess packaging means its easier to get a larger motor at the back rather than the front so it's the smaller of the two that are removed.
That's very interesting to see asynchronous motors being used. Trains etc have used them for decades. Very low maintenance but lower power density than permanent magnet ones. But the latter's use of rare earth metals makes them more expensive and less environmentally friendly given that for rare earth metals 98% of what you mine isn't what you are after. Asynchronous are far simpler and use cheaper metals like copper, aluminium and steel.
I've been waiting to see when EVs would make the switch away from permanent magnet rare earth metal motors.
Asynchronous was, to me, a logical step to replace them
That's very interesting to see asynchronous motors being used. Trains etc have used them for decades. Very low maintenance but lower power density than permanent magnet ones. But the latter's use of rare earth metals makes them more expensive and less environmentally friendly given that for rare earth metals 98% of what you mine isn't what you are after. Asynchronous are far simpler and use cheaper metals like copper, aluminium and steel.
I've been waiting to see when EVs would make the switch away from permanent magnet rare earth metal motors.
Asynchronous was, to me, a logical step to replace them
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I don't get why P2 SMLR has so much better range than the C40 equivalent... Based on the hp they don't use the same motors but still... why use weaker and less efficient motors
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