Effect of being towed with awd (R) w/o dolley or flatbed?

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usernamez

Discussion Starter · Mar 29, 2009

trying to figure out my defense here with the city tow people. they f*cked up my winglets and for some reason my exhaust bracket is off.

any comments are appreciated.

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Pete'S60R

· #2 · Mar 29, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (R) w/o dolley or flatbed? (usernamez)

People still get there Winglets fudged up on a FLATBED
(but if your carefull and most importantly they are carefull it can be done with no incident)
Was the exhaust bracket physically removed by hand or does it look like it got one hard hit and got demolished?

usernamez

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 29, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (peter_reece2003)

i have evolve springs. so definitely have screwed up my winglets on my own with AAA and a flatbed (a few times). the first couple of times i forgot to mention that it was AWD and they have always called me to let me know that it will take longer because they need to send a flatbed due to the AWD.

but this time i was not there. trying to get them to give me some money for the damages they caused.

the city tow people should have known this. they also had my keys so they could have flatbedded easily. or at least used a dolley (even w/o my keys). they also had my registration so they knew the make and model of the car.

looks like the bracket got caught somewhere at some point, dented my driveshaft and then they took it off with tools.

no idea how i'm going to prove any of this tho.

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rgrove

· #4 · Mar 29, 2009

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Re: Effect of being towed with awd (usernamez)

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looks like the bracket got caught somewhere at some point, dented my driveshaft and then they took it off with tools.

no idea how i'm going to prove any of this tho.

Winglets may be the least of your worries if your driveshaft is damaged..... IIRC, those are BIG $$$$$ to replace...

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850arrrsaylikepirate

· #5 · Mar 30, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (usernamez)

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looks like the bracket got caught somewhere at some point, dented my driveshaft and then they took it off with tools.

^^^^^Oh good god, I just did not read that^^^^^

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JS60R

· #6 · Mar 30, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (850arrrsaylikepirate)

He probably means the exhaust? Driveshaft is above that.
Still, it costs money to repair it. I paid 100 to have the dented collector rebuilt after bracket incident.

Just hope there wasn't enough force to bend the driveshaft.

Arbelac

· #7 · Mar 30, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (rgrove)

If they towed it with the front wheels up and the rear wheels down.... they just fudged your AWD.

850arrrsaylikepirate

· #8 · Mar 31, 2009

Re: Am I a moron for having the center bracket on my R after all the warnings posted here??? (petew)

Agreed, if you still have that bracket on your car you get 50 demerits!

usernamez

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (Arbelac)

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If they towed it with the front wheels up and the rear wheels down.... they just fudged your AWD.

what are the facts behind this? anyone know?
can anyone reference a reputable link? or source for me to follow up with?

much appreciated

TGO

· #10 · Apr 2, 2009

would th eactive coupler in the back be engaged with the car off?? they might have smoked your emergency brake but unless the awd was locked in i don't see any issue.

S60R1

· #11 · Apr 2, 2009

Re:

Lawsuit

Call a lawyer

usernamez

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: Re: (S60R1)

have a lawyer. but need to know the specifics.
how the damage can be caused and why... etc... (other then what i see physically and feel)
trying to gather as much data as i can.

BEJinFbk

· #13 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: Effect of being towed with awd (usernamez)

Quote, originally posted by usernamez »

what are the facts behind this? anyone know?
can anyone reference a reputable link? or source for me to follow up with?

much appreciated

Should be right there in your OM. Look under "Towing".
Sounds like the wrecker driver was an idiot...Or really new!
Heck, there's and AWD badge right on the back!

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JRL

· #14 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: Re: (usernamez)

Quote, originally posted by usernamez »

have a lawyer. but need to know the specifics.
how the damage can be caused and why... etc... (other then what i see physically and feel)
trying to gather as much data as i can.

Read your owners manual

usernamez

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: Re: (JRL)

the owners manual is going to tell me the specific effects of being towed w/o dolley or flatbed? I find that unlikely no?

i would guess that its just going to tell me how it needs to be towed (which we have already established).

DGBibo

· #16 · Apr 2, 2009

where you towed, or did you call a tow?

from what i understand you cant sue a tow company to damage to your car, hence "car will be towed at OWNERS expense"

and regardless you have to prove that THEY did it, not you on the way home, not before, so unless you have pics of the car going up and coming down, i dont think anyone would take your case.

happen to my old car, i worked for a State Representative at the time here in Illinois and he tried everything and its a touchy subject.

usernamez

Discussion Starter · #17 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: (DGBibo)

DGBibo-

I feel yah. Not an easy case. I have free legal representation tho so I am going to try. I saw the paper work at the city tow place and it was marked down as 'no dolley used.' I am assuming that there is some level of responsibility to tow an awd car properly. I donno.

hopefully its just a letter that's needed... but doubtful considering i want to be compensated fully which is going to quite a bit.

Arbelac

· #18 · Apr 2, 2009

As JRL said, read your owner's manual. There's a large warning there that says towing with the front wheels up and rear wheels down will cause damage to the AWD system.

DGBibo

· #19 · Apr 2, 2009

yeah go for it! i would, and did. if you have pics your golden, or at least with a lawyer he will see you are serious and settle out of court for a certain amount.

oh and i was just refering to the winglet, not the AWD, thats messed up what a noob lol (yeah i said it)

usernamez

Discussion Starter · #20 · Apr 2, 2009

Re: (Arbelac)

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There's a large warning there that says towing with the front wheels up and rear wheels down will cause damage to the AWD system.

yes we know it does (I havent actually even looked at it yet, will get to that). but in a 5k + lawsuit (not small claims) i need more then "on page 54 it says in red letters "front wheels up and rear wheels down will cause damage to the AWD system"

i will have the testimony of the authorized mechanic + photos etc.
but i need to know the specifics...
this is why you can not do this... b/c it affects this specific aspect of the car...
if you do get towed improperly, this is the result and this is why.
if towed more then x miles, inevitably this part (x) will fail.
etc.

i guess no one knows or has a reference... just that it should not be done...

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