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I Know this has been asked and answered, BUT<br>I am still being told by my dealer (Otherwise very reputable) that DVD is Not Orderable as of now. They indicate the they are still ordering MY03's but when they input selection of DVD option, "the system" kicks out the order. <p>They also indicate that they have no Part Numbers or Codes to order the Dealer Installed option they originally advertised.<p>I see clear reference to Rear Seat Entertainment System with DVD etc in the brochure and on the Volvo website.... <p>Who is right? Can I get DVD on a MY-'03?<br>Will Factory Install system?<br>What does it cost for Dealer installation?<br>Do I need to wait fo MY-'04?<p>This is the last hurdle to my decision - All help and advice is appreciated.
 

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Re: DVD Availability ? (MA-USA)

No you cannot get the DVD system. And there is no such option on the order screen since the system will only be a retailer-installed option only.<p>Expect this system to start arriving sometime in June 2003.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: DVD Availability ? (GrecianVolvo)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>No you cannot get the DVD system. And there is no such option on the order screen since the system will only be a retailer-installed option only.<p>Expect this system to start arriving sometime in June 2003.<p>Yannis<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Do you mean that this system could be installed _after_ I've got my XC90?<br>ETA of my XC90 is late June, and my kids are interested in this system. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>mackeymouse<br>
 

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Re: DVD Availability ? (mackeymouse)

We have gone the aftermarket route, and have a very nice Sony system.<br>7" power operated screen, looks stock.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Do you mean that this system could be installed _after_ I've got my XC90?<br>ETA of my XC90 is late June, and my kids are interested in this system. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>mackeymouse<br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Yes, that system will be able to be retrofitted.<p>Yannis
 

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Re: DVD Availability ? (VolvoMax)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>We have gone the aftermarket route, and have a very nice Sony system.<br>7" power operated screen, looks stock.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Yes, that has been a fairly attractive alternative. Which SONY model are you guys using and how much are you selling it for?<p>Yannis
 

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Re: DVD Availability ? (MA-USA)

Any more info on this?<p>Our dealer made it sound like it was impossible with the sunroof. Then he came back with we may be installing them at the dealer - an Audio-Vox system that wouldn't really "look" like it belonged but would be integrated.<p>We almost went with an Acura MDX because of the DVD all ready there - then decided it wouldn't be smart to base our decision on that. We ordered a T-6 due in 12 to 20 weeks and would love to have a DVD player installed.... <br>
 

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How does integration go with 3rd party DVD players with regard to the infotainment system? Can you choose DVD as a source with the headphone jacks mounted on the rear pillars or do you have to plug them directly into the DVD player?<p>It seems like Volvo has given a lot of thought to integrating everything through a central system and it would be a shame not to take advantage of it. Of course, the complexity of such an integration might be part of the hold up on the system...<p>OT
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>How does integration go with 3rd party DVD players with regard to the infotainment system? Can you choose DVD as a source with the headphone jacks mounted on the rear pillars or do you have to plug them directly into the DVD player?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>You'll have to plug the headphones directly into the DVD to hear it, you won't be able to hear the DVD through the integrated headphone jacks in the C-post. This also goes for the DVD rear seat entertainment system from Volvo that will be available from June 2003. But the Volvo system will have wireless headphones with the DVD.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>How does integration go with 3rd party DVD players with regard to the infotainment system?<br>You'll have to plug the headphones directly into the DVD to hear it, you won't be able to hear the DVD through the integrated headphone jacks in the C-post.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Volvo goes to all the trouble of fitting a "state of the art" sound distribution system to these cars, but:<p>1) You can't use the existing system with a DVD player<br>2) There is no way to integrate an MP3 player<br>3) CD player will not play MP3 discs<br>4) There's a humongous antenna bay that is unsuitable for satellite antennas (and not that great for AM/FM either)<br>5) There is no integrated phone system yet available<br>6) No cassette<br>7) No minidisc in North America<br>8) There's a big hole in the middle of the radio that reminds me of 5 and 6 every time I drive the car<p>As Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire would say, "That's infotainment!"<p>jvincent
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR><p>Yes, that has been a fairly attractive alternative. Which SONY model are you guys using and how much are you selling it for?<p>Yannis<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>The unit is a 7" Sony screen, power dropdown w/ Sony dvd as well as game controller hook up.<br>Sells for $1695 installed, so far we've put in 8 or so
 

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Re: I'd wait for factory (jvincent)

That hole in the middle of the radio has been a great place to store our two cell phones... but I agree with the rest of your statements...
 

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Re: I'd wait for factory (skyslimit)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>That hole in the middle of the radio has been a great place to store our two cell phones... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Mine won't fit. I have a NEXTEL Motorola (kind of bulky). But I like tha hole! I can put lots of stuff there! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Yannis
 

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Re: I'd wait for factory (jvincent)

Jvincent, just some short comments on your list that hopefully can explain some of the seemingly strange state of affairs.<p><BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>1) You can't use the existing system with a DVD player<br>2) There is no way to integrate an MP3 player<br>3) CD player will not play MP3 discs<br>4) There's a humongous antenna bay that is unsuitable for satellite antennas (and not that great for AM/FM either)<br>5) There is no integrated phone system yet available<br>6) No cassette<br>7) No minidisc in North America<br>8) There's a big hole in the middle of the radio that reminds me of 5 and 6 every time I drive the car<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>1), 2) and 3) This is what you get when you're first out with new technology. You may have noticed that all other car manufacturers that have adopted this new way of designing Infotainment systems (BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Saab...) have the same status as Volvo with some small differencies like MiniDisc which is only offered by Volvo and tape that is only offered by Mercedes. The OEM world moves a little slower than the aftermarket since the aftermarket doesn't have to fit their product plans into car project plans and deal with integration, certification, crashworthiness, EMC and other pesky issues. Rest assured that all these functions will come, and more.<p>4) It was decided that the antenna bay should be designed to host and conceal up to 14 antenna functions of which many aren't really used yet. About 6 of them are used today. However, the requirements of the Sirius/XM systems does not allow concealed antennas so the satellite antenna has to be outside the antenna bay.<p>5) The integrated phone is available in the European models. I'm sure a Volvo dealer can give you an intro date of the US phone. Since the Cellular phone systems differ a lot between the markets the integrated phones have to be developed as completely separate systems.<p>6) This relates to item 1), 2) and 3). The car project management felt that by 2002/2003 very few would be that interested in a cassette player. At that time (1998/1999) MiniDisc had more penetration than MP3 so the fortune tellers of the company said that MiniDisc should replace cassette.<p>7) There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to get a MiniDisc player anywhere in the world. It is simply a question of your dealer ordering one. It can be retrofitted very easily...<p>8) ... to occupy that hole in the Infotainment control panel.
 

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Re: I'd wait for factory (Audioguy)

Audioguy,<p>Thanks for the information. You've been very helpful.<p>Any chance that Bluetooth phone options are in the works?<p>jvincent
 

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Audioguy, you are undoubtedly the <U>EXPERT</U> here! I am dying to install an auxiliary jack for an iPod (it'll drop nicely into the North American "gap". <p>My BIG QUESTION IS: How soon will the aftermarket guys like <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/star.gif" BORDER="0"><A HREF="http://www.blitzsafe.com/blitz_catalog/blitz_catalog.html" TARGET="_blank">Blitzsafe</A>, <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/star.gif" BORDER="0"><A HREF="http://peripheralelectronics.com/2002/home.asp" TARGET="_blank">Peripheral Electronics</A>, or <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/star.gif" BORDER="0"><A HREF="http://www.rcainput.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?" TARGET="_blank">RCA Inputs</A> come up with a true blue XC90 solution that fits into this Volvo <b>"MOST"</b> fancy-schmanzy fiber-optic sound system of ours.<p>I read with envy how other car owners have integrated their iPods:<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> <A HREF="http://www.bmwtips.com/tipsntricks/MP3%20install%20cutting%20into%20tape%20inputs_files/MP3%20install%20cutting%20into%20tape%20inputs.htm" TARGET="_blank">BMW 530i with NAV system</A><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> <A HREF="http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=509131" TARGET="_blank">Volkswagen Passat GTi with built-in firewire power supply</A> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.m-emag.com/images/features/2002/april_may/2002am_ces_blitzsafe.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Am I the most frustrated owner here or what?<p>Plus, I have a Nokia CARK-91 Hands-Free Kit for my Nokia 6310i Bluetooth Phone which I would love to have installed into the XC90 too (since it cost me more than the phone itself). Is there any electronics manuals available for installers yet?<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.mobiletoys.co.uk/acatalog/cark-91.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>---------------<p><BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Jvincent, just some short comments on your list that hopefully can explain some of the seemingly strange state of affairs.<p>1) You can't use the existing system with a DVD player<br>2) There is no way to integrate an MP3 player<br>3) CD player will not play MP3 discs<br>4) There's a humongous antenna bay that is unsuitable for satellite antennas (and not that great for AM/FM either)<br>5) There is no integrated phone system yet available<br>6) No cassette<br>7) No minidisc in North America<br>8) There's a big hole in the middle of the radio that reminds me of 5 and 6 every time I drive the car<p>1), 2) and 3) This is what you get when you're first out with new technology. You may have noticed that all other car manufacturers that have adopted this new way of designing Infotainment systems (BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Saab...) have the same status as Volvo with some small differencies like MiniDisc which is only offered by Volvo and tape that is only offered by Mercedes. The OEM world moves a little slower than the aftermarket since the aftermarket doesn't have to fit their product plans into car project plans and deal with integration, certification, crashworthiness, EMC and other pesky issues. Rest assured that all these functions will come, and more.<p>4) It was decided that the antenna bay should be designed to host and conceal up to 14 antenna functions of which many aren't really used yet. About 6 of them are used today. However, the requirements of the Sirius/XM systems does not allow concealed antennas so the satellite antenna has to be outside the antenna bay.<p>5) The integrated phone is available in the European models. I'm sure a Volvo dealer can give you an intro date of the US phone. Since the Cellular phone systems differ a lot between the markets the integrated phones have to be developed as completely separate systems.<p>6) This relates to item 1), 2) and 3). The car project management felt that by 2002/2003 very few would be that interested in a cassette player. At that time (1998/1999) MiniDisc had more penetration than MP3 so the fortune tellers of the company said that MiniDisc should replace cassette.<p>7) There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to get a MiniDisc player anywhere in the world. It is simply a question of your dealer ordering one. It can be retrofitted very easily...<p>8) ... to occupy that hole in the Infotainment control panel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>My BIG QUESTION IS: How soon will the aftermarket guys come up with a true blue XC90 solution that fits into this Volvo sound system of ours.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>The MOST system has been adopted by most premium car brands to protect for future functionality growth. Todays (yesterdays) method of hardwiring each function will lead to extremely complex and wiring intensive systems that are expensive and a high quality risk. With a high-speed digital bus it is much easier and cheaper to add functions to the system. For the same reason many carmakers have converted to multiplexed electrical systems some years ago.<p>The MOST architecture also means that it is harder for aftermarket systems to integrate since they need both special hardware and software that can be difficult to come by unless you have OEM business with the carmakers. This also means that the carmakers have to be more sensitive to the customers needs since they seldom can go to their local car stereo dealer to fill their desire for spedial solutions like iPod installation and the like.<p>The examples you showed with the VW and the BMW are both cars with the older, hardwired architecture which makes it possible to do this kind of installation given you have knowledge of the wiring of the car. No software update is necessary. But instead you may have to manufacture special cassette tapes with rubberbands etc <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> .
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Any chance that Bluetooth phone options are in the works?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Sorry, can't comment on that type of question.
 

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Hello Audioguy,<p>Regarding your answer to question 3) CD player will not play MP3 discs ...<br>" Rest assured that all these functions will come, and more." Can you elaborate on that? Would that mean I take my 2003 XC90 to the dealer and he "uploads" a software upgrade and then I can play an mp3 cd?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Regarding your answer to question 3) CD player will not play MP3 discs ...<br>" Rest assured that all these functions will come, and more." Can you elaborate on that? Would that mean I take my 2003 XC90 to the dealer and he "uploads" a software upgrade and then I can play an mp3 cd?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Some upgrades will only need a new software but other ones will also require new hardware. In the case of MP3 playability you will need new hardware since the CD player needs to have CD-ROM decoding which is not included in the current CD player for the XC90.<p>So when this function is available (no release date planned yet) you will have to get a new CD player as well as a software upgrade. The upside is that you don't have to exchange the whole system, only the player.
 
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