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I have a 2005 2.5 AWD XC90 and am considering driving it on a soft sand beach this summer but am hearing that AWD is not the same as 4x4 and that I might get stuck. Has anyone had this issue?
 

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Re: Driving XC90 on a soft sand beach (jmkjjk)

Search XC70 thread/ There were a couple of good discussions there. My recollection is that the XC70 does the soft sand with confidence. Which means that XC90 with bigger wheels and ground clearance should do even better.<p>Sure, Haldex is not true 4x4, but on other side 2.5T has the full torque available at just 1500 RPM. So, lower the tire pressure and drive steady...<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by gascos80 at 2:50 PM 6-28-2009</i>
 

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Re: Driving XC90 on a soft sand beach (obiwan)

Thanks all. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> Seems like whether the sand is soft or hard packed is a major contributing factor in whether people have problems or not. Also soft is not bad as long as you dont have to stop in it but can make it through to a hard packed area. Stopping in deep, soft sand appears to be the booby trap for most who try in an AWD car. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Jim
 

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Re: Driving XC90 on a soft sand beach (jmkjjk)

Even in a FWD car, if you keep moving you are likely to be ok. In that sense it's not much different from snow. Keep moving, and steady as she goes.
 

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Understood. To 15 or 20 lbs. Even at that low pressure, I understand stopping in 6-10" soft sand can be fatal for AWD where 4x4's do not have an issue.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jmkjjk</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Understood. To 15 or 20 lbs. Even at that low pressure, I understand stopping in 6-10" soft sand can be fatal for AWD where 4x4's do not have an issue. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wrong - stopping in the deep soft sand would be equily "fatal" for both - AWD and 4x4 - you would not have the base to be pushed against, and you wheels will dig deeper and deeper, whether 2 or 4...<br>The "true" 4x4 is not a panacea...<p>That is why people suggest carrying the boards or a piece of sturdy carpet.<br>It will provide you with the required base to be pushed from the stand still.<p>There is no significant difference between the AWD and 4x4 in this particular situation. Your Haldex will start "digging" with all 4 wheels after the front wheels will slip just 1/7th of a turn. And after 2005, the Haldex provides the torque to all 4 wheels right from the get go.
 

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I have had an opportunity to bail out a newport beach life guard out of the soft sand. she was driving an F350 4wd and had dug herself in deep. She managed to bury the tires doing both 4 wheel drive and 2 wheel drive attempts. his is like play sand she was stuck in. ...after about 30 minutes she gave up and I volunteered to help her. She had already taken air out of the tires and dug around and still couldn't get anywhere. <p>Anyway to help her out, I advised her not to spin the tires and modulate the throttle. Did I mention she was a cute tall blonde life-guard? <p>to make the long story short, I eventually got on the truck and did exactly what I told her to do, and a minute later she was out of the sand. She was extremely happy and thankful.<p>...and then she gave me back my 3-yr old daughter that she watched for me while I bailed her out.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had an opportunity to bail out a newport beach life guard out of the soft sand. she was driving an F350 4wd and had dug herself in deep. She managed to bury the tires doing both 4 wheel drive and 2 wheel drive attempts. his is like play sand she was stuck in. ...after about 30 minutes she gave up and I volunteered to help her. She had already taken air out of the tires and dug around and still couldn't get anywhere. <p>Anyway to help her out, I advised her not to spin the tires and modulate the throttle. Did I mention she was a cute tall blonde life-guard? <p>to make the long story short, I eventually got on the truck and did exactly what I told her to do, and a minute later she was out of the sand. She was extremely happy and thankful.<p>...and then she gave me back my 3-yr old daughter that she watched for me while I bailed her out.<p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds like you were due for even more payment... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>crash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I advised her not to spin the tires and modulate the throttle. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Your saying that you employed "modulating the throttle" to dig her out of deep sand? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> There must be more to it than that? Most people require a tow that are in that situation...
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jmkjjk</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Your saying that you employed "modulating the throttle" to dig her out of deep sand? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> There must be more to it than that? Most people require a tow that are in that situation... </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br><I>She had already taken air out of the tires and dug around and still couldn't get anywhere.</I><p><br>That's a key. You can get of a hole, if you modulate the throttle and have some room to get a momentum, before you hit the wall of sand in front of the tire. <br>You apply as much torque as you can, to keep the wheels on the brink of spinning, and you might get enough to get the wheels over the humps...<br>
 

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Got it.<p>Thank you ! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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