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Looks very odd to me... wouldn't expect it after just 6 months and only 4,000 miles of driving, especially in our area (the Pacific Northwest, where it rains a bunch and isn't that hot) after having just come out of winter.<p>I am shocked at how many wrinkles and cracks have showed up on the driver's seat outermost section, which naturally gets the most wear. We don't have perforated ventilated seats, as you can tell, so I think this is just the normal leather.<p>What do you all think? Is this normal? I can't imagine I need to put leather conditioner on it already. I am scared what it will look like in 5 years! Like crap, that's how!<p><IMG SRC="http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq266/Lotus100/Seatcracks.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Does anyone else's driver's seat leather look like this? (Lotus99)

It happens and frankly I think with all the bogus conditioners out there it will only become worse.
 

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Re: Does anyone else's driver's seat leather look like this? (Johann)

Hi Lotus,<p>i have done 37000kms which i think is about 23000 miles in 12 months in my xc70, have the blackish coloured leather and while there are some wrinkles it doesnt look like yours have to say. Having said that i do have some wrinkles and while i usually use either meguires though have recently swapped to mothers which i find better other sites really talk up the Zaino brand of product which i have ordered over the net. it hasnt come yet so cant really give an opinion on the product other than to say everyone reckons it makes the car smell new again. something to do with the product smelling like new leather (leather in a bottle what will they think of next!!). <p>i would be kind of worried though given i have done way more miles than you good mix of city & country) and am a person of well; general proportions, i weigh 18 stone and i think there are 14 pound in a stone so whatever that is. <p>i would be getting something onto it asap. if you havent any product around try Lanolin its cheap and effective. just smudge it on, close your car up and leave it in the sun for a while to let it soak in and then wipe it off. its stickier than product stuff so you will have to rub a bit harder. <p>if you need a photo, let me know the secret of getting photo's into the post and i can send some of mine no probs. I have been a bit slack and havent put any product of any sort of my seats yet so it should be a useful comparison if you want to go armed with photo's to the dealer (happy to make the trip to canada too if you need a fat witness:) )<p>Usually you see that kind of wear on sports cars low to the ground where you have to climb into and out of it so there is much more wear. Unusual given this vehicle is off the ground somewhat. <p>Early days yet since you posted but i dont think its normal.<p>cheers<br>Hatdriver
 

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Welcome to the world of Volvo leather!

Looks normal to me. I have a 07 XC70 (bought new) and it looked like this within weeks. I put a conditioner on it often. Incidently, my last V70 had cloth and it looked showroom new after 7 years (this is why I prefer cloth over leather). For grins the next time you are in for any service, walk around the used car section and look at all the leather interiors; they will all be like this (volvos). <p>It is just a car.......<br>
 

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Re: Does anyone else's driver's seat leather look like this? (Lotus99)

Lotus,<p>You do seem to have an inordinate number of issues with your car! Hopefully the car I pick up today will fare better than yours...<p>But frankly this just looks like leather to me. If it were brown, it would have a nice worn look.<p>Put some conditioner on it if you want, but I doubt it will crack anytime soon if that is what you're worried about. As long as the seat is comfortable, it's not like you spend a lot of time looking at it while you're driving, right?<p>(I'm fussy about the way things look too, but don't mind if they look used).
 

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Looks the same in mine. <p>I read - in this forum - that since Volvo uses a low-allergen and enviornmental friendly way to treat leather (using vegetable oils), the leather wears out sooner.
 

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Get the IKEA (low gloss) cleaner and conditioner for leather. I really like it, and apparently it is the same one that Volvo sells for $50 (vs. 24 dollars at IKEA).<p>See post:<br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=107517" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=107517</A><br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rovermark</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get the IKEA (low gloss) cleaner and conditioner for leather. I really like it, and apparently it is the same one that Volvo sells for $50 (vs. 24 dollars at IKEA).<p>See post:<br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=107517" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=107517</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks! How often (how many months and/or km's) are you doing it?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Lotus99</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Thanks! How often (how many months and/or km's) are you doing it?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pass on the cleaner. All your leather needs is a quick wipe with a damp microfiber towel. If it needs it a good cleaning solution, try Woolite (Zero) mixed at a 6 (water):1(woolite) ratio. Put in a small spray bottle. One pull on the spray bottle is more than enough to do an entire seat.<p>I still recommend the Lexol condioner over the Ikea stuff. Check the R forum for more leather care threads. The R leather is very delicate so this has been discussed many times.<p>I condition the R seats three times a year. Using nitrile gloves I spray the surface down with Lexol conditioner and then rub it into the leather the same way you would apply sun tan lotion to yourself. I leave the moist surface overnight to let the leather draw the conditioner in. I wipe/buff off any excess in the morning. This process has kept my R leather (Gobi) in like new condition, even the drivers bolster.<p><br>YMMV.<br>
 

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Oh my, that looks awful! Just kidding, my seat was pretty cracked along the left edge the day that I took delivery of my XC90. 2 years into ownership it doesn't look much worse, maybe a little 'cracked' looking somewhat like yours. So, my point being it may not be to your liking but it probably won't get much worse. They are leather seats and they will wear a bit. I was skeptical of my seats but like I said, they look ok to me now. I use a damp cloth for cleaning and Coach leather conditioner. <p>Enjoy your car!
 

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Thanks, good to know... we have a two and a four year old, so the back of the car is already a mess and I've gotten somewhat used to it! As long as it's not going to get much worse, I guess that's just the type of leather they use.<p>The leather in my BMW 335i with the same mileage on it doesn't have a single crack in it or look this worn, and the leather in that car is just as soft.
 

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Well, here is my drivers seat - but in ventilated leather...

The standard leather is definately different to that of the vented seats. My drivers seat looks OK after 12 months and 39,000kms IMHO. I am ashamed to say there have been no products used whatsoever on this... Soon...<p>Hatdriver - we really do similar driving levels eh ?<p><br> <IMG SRC="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3401/3529891699_8ec86d09ca_o.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3529891779_21d83aa161_o.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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I think a lot of the problem with the visible cracks comes from the fact that the leather used on the sides for my seat seems very fine/smooth/shiny, so cracks are really obvious. Don't know if that makes sense. Your side leather even looks like it has a slightly rougher feel to it/larger grains, so it doesn't show cracks as badly as mine does.<p>You can see the different leather used in the center section of the seat doesn't show cracks as much, and it's a grainier leather.<p>My BMW's leather is also a larger grain leather I'd say.
 

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Hi Lotus, here is a picture of my seats. Looks pretty similar to your exept from that large scratch I have in the middle of the seat. I have no idea how we made that nasty scratch. Any idea what is the best way to fix this?<br>My older V70 had more little cracks than this one. I am not realy worried about them.<br><IMG SRC="http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/beavenx5/VolvoHitch001.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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I may as well post a pic of my seat while I'm at it. This is my XC90 @17k and about 20 mos. Those cracks along the edge were there when I took delivery. I think it's aging fine.<p>It's not fair to compare the wear to another car, the leather in our Infiniti still looks pretty new almost 5 years later. I don't like it as much as the Volvo, though.<p><IMG SRC="http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg278/cardiff_giant/DSCF1608.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>beavenx5</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Lotus, here is a picture of my seats. Looks pretty similar to your exept from that large scratch I have in the middle of the seat. I have no idea how we made that nasty scratch. Any idea what is the best way to fix this?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks for postin the pic. I feel a bit better now. Your scratch doesn't look too bad. I've got one of those too, and I was just hoping that it will over time blend in.<p>If you get a deep scratch ever, I think there are leather repair kits, but I've not used them, so can't give personal advice on that.
 

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Re: Well, here is my drivers seat - but in ventilated leather... (notthestig)

Hi NTS,<p>Almost the same over 12 mths. I was looking at those posts on this site re the Caspian blue replacement for barents blue and wouldnt mind seeing it in the flesh. it seems to have a bit more life in it than barents did kind of like they tweaked the ocean blue colour and came up with caspian more so than tweaking barents. the other thing about Aussie 2010 xc70's is that I thought that willow green was offered (have only seen it on 90's) and now caper green is on offer. <p>Glad they have changed the roofliner to now offer quartz for anthracite leathered cars. Much better colour combo from my viewpoint. <p>I think you have 18 inch wheels on the your LE. My 17" tyres look good and are wearing even, i got a wheel alignment and balance at 38500 kms (as i figure things will start to loosen up). See my new post re <br>this though as I have a query. <p>i dont want to take a big hit on his vehicle and hope to get another at about 80k so at these kms I will only have it for another year. I have a small business so I think i can get 50 pc tax break. wish i had it six months before then it would have made it a no brainer but the way it is I just cant justify a replacmeent at this time.
 

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Re: Well, here is my drivers seat - but in ventilated leather... (Hatdriver)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hatdriver</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi NTS,<p>Almost the same over 12 mths. I was looking at those posts on this site re the Caspian blue replacement for barents blue and wouldnt mind seeing it in the flesh. it seems to have a bit more life in it than barents did kind of like they tweaked the ocean blue colour and came up with caspian more so than tweaking barents. the other thing about Aussie 2010 xc70's is that I thought that willow green was offered (have only seen it on 90's) and now caper green is on offer. <p>Glad they have changed the roofliner to now offer quartz for anthracite leathered cars. Much better colour combo from my viewpoint. <p>I think you have 18 inch wheels on the your LE. My 17" tyres look good and are wearing even, i got a wheel alignment and balance at 38500 kms (as i figure things will start to loosen up). See my new post re <br>this though as I have a query. <p>i dont want to take a big hit on his vehicle and hope to get another at about 80k so at these kms I will only have it for another year. I have a small business so I think i can get 50 pc tax break. wish i had it six months before then it would have made it a no brainer but the way it is I just cant justify a replacmeent at this time. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, even the 18's are wearing well. I did have them rotated at 30k.<p>With that 50% deduction, although it almost seems silly, I am considering a new car. If I was to order another (and it would be a special spec...) it would be 4 months to delivery, so pushing close to 18 months old then. I don't know, I will have to weigh it all up... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 
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