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I would guess fronts since the R is mostly FWD most of the time? Reason I ask is because I'm not totally sure the dealer rotated my tires for my 30k service. Right now, the rears are noticably more worn than the fronts. I have some major outside wearing, but that's probably due to all the hard cornering I've been doing lately. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Anyway, if I want to balance out the wear, should I tell the dealer to rotate them? Does hard driving wear the rears more like a RWD car? I would think the fronts would wear more in any condition since this car is so front heavy and mostly FWD. Thoughts? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (PhilUp)

Front because of FWD bias but if you rotate enough they will wear the same <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (PhilUp)

Front by a lot. Rotate often. I found out the hard way. That's ok...I got PS2's on it sooner that way!
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (llabahn)

Ok so since my fronts aren't as worn, I'll keep them in the front. That's what I thought but it's strange that my dealer didn't rotate the tires but my fronts are still not as worn as the rear.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so since my fronts aren't as worn, I'll keep them in the front. That's what I thought but it's strange that my dealer didn't rotate the tires but my fronts are still not as worn as the rear. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just start braking harder, or go to a track day. At a track, usually the fronts will wear 200-300% more than the rears in my experience.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (Warpedcow)

The fronts wear faster especially the edges. <br><B>I've said this 50 times, rotate, rotate, rotate.</B><br>If your R is lowered you MUST rotate every 4 to 5K miles of the inside rears will wear out from the negative camber.<br>If it's stock you rotate every 7500 miles to "square out" the fronts before they're like yours...which is too late
 

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Mine is stock and rotated every 7,500... fronts still went bald way faster... but thats totally due to several laps at the 'Ring. I would've rotated more often last summer but I need to get rid of the stock POS tires. By the time I get back from Trash-can-istan it'll be time for winter tires and I'll have till spring to shop and decide on summer only shoes
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (JRL)

I did rotate every 7500 miles. The difference in wear isn't THAT bad, it's just noticable enough to tell that the rears are more worn than the fronts. Or maybe the dealer forgot to rotate my tires at all. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (PhilUp)

I rotated for the first time at 11,600 miles. The front tires were almost bald on the inside edge. Is this from waiting to long before rotating or do I have an alignment problem?
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (junk_99_dl)

Probably both. The R is known to get thrown out of alignment pretty often even if you haven't hit any big potholes. Rotating every 7500 is a must. Less than 7500 if you have lowering springs or drive really hard all the time.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (PhilUp)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PhilUp</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Rotating every 7500 is a must. Less than 7500 if you have lowering springs or drive really hard all the time. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Less than 7500 in almost every case is a must. C'mon people, this is a 20,000 mile tire that wears pretty fast. At 7500 miles, wear is disproportionate to say the least.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Less than 7500 in almost every case is a must. C'mon people, this is a 20,000 mile tire that wears pretty fast. At 7500 miles, wear is disproportionate to say the least.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Less than 7500 definately. At the most 5000.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (llabahn)

I am on my second set of tires already (43K on my 04 V70R GT) and I would say the rears go faster than the fronts but I have a lot of highway miles on my car. I even tried reducing the negative camber in the rears and the side hop was much improved but then the rears feathered the insides quickly and the tires got very loud. I got 19K out of the Pirellis with very even wear and only 24K out of the Master Craft Avengers I replaced them with and they had a 360 treadwear vs. the 220 or so on the Pirellis. Moral of the story is to leave the alignment stock and just be happy that you are not driving a Ford Taurus.<br>
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (Ericfujii)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ericfujii</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am on my second set of tires already (43K on my 04 V70R GT) and I would say the rears go faster than the fronts but I have a lot of highway miles on my car. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>this makes absolutely no sense. you are driving a FWD biased car and on the highway, your fronts are getting 90% of the traction. the only way you could wear the rears out sooner is by doing a lot of heavy launches. <p>i just rotated my tires at 4k miles and i was able to see that the fronts were more worn than the rear.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (PhilUp)

Tire rotation is NOT part of any Volvo service!<p>If you want them rotated you need to ask/pay for it to be done.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (rogersampson)

That's not quite a complete statement. The factory schedule might not include rotations (I need to check) but it is quite possible the dealer schedule does. Many if not most dealers have their own custom maintenance schedules which can indeed include rotatons (which accounts for why two dealers in the same area can have significantly different prices for standard scheduled maintenance.)<p>For my 30k service last month my tires would have been rotated if the fronts were more worn than the rear but they weren't (probably because they had been rotated the prior week at Costco.)<p>Also, FWIW, I did have a period when I lived in CA and was doing a lot of launching and my rear tires definitely wore faster than fronts.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rogersampson</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tire rotation is NOT part of any Volvo service!<p>If you want them rotated you need to ask/pay for it to be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (junk_99_dl)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>junk_99_dl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I rotated for the first time at 11,600 miles. The front tires were almost bald on the inside edge. Is this from waiting to long before rotating or do I have an alignment problem?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You got an alignment problem for sure. you need to fix the toe print so that it doesn't angle out (or angle in) and cause uneven wear.<p>
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (stevectsai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevectsai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You got an alignment problem for sure. you need to fix the toe print so that it doesn't angle out (or angle in) and cause uneven wear.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds more like camber issues to me. Toe would cause scuffing.
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds more like camber issues to me. Toe would cause scuffing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>agreed. camber is to blame. my buddy let his car go without alignment for awhile and the tire ended up blowing on the turnpike. when i looked at it, the inside was down to the metal rings, while the outside had 50% tread left.<p>
 

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Re: Do the front or rear tires wear faster on the R? (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Sounds more like camber issues to me. Toe would cause scuffing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes you're right. camber more specifically.
 
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