I have been with this group for almost three years. Earlier today there was some bantering back and forth from a guy who asked some questions. It got a little heated. Several people popped in and said basically that this topic has been discussed until the horse died and that this guy should do a search before he asks a question. On the few times that I asked a question, I have tried to do a search. with mixed results. Saturday, I was trying to find that thread that discussed getting wax off the black body trim that the '04's have. I finally got it, but it took several attempts and mixing the words around to get it. I knew it was there, but had to work at retrieving it. If I didn't know it was there, I would have given up and just asked the question in the forum. Probably would have gotten the answer that it has been discussed before and that I should do a search before I ask the question. I think we should be a little more patient and let people ask questions. Things evolve, things change, and answers change. Asking a question again might get new insight. Suggesting to do a search is fine, but I think its ok to put the question out there is ok. If everyone is bored with answering the same question a million times, then let it sit or suggest doing a search. oclv