[ViriiGuy]

I know the S70 was available in Europe with the R package, but not in North America. However, I can't seem to find what exactly was different between the two. Do any of you guys know what the R has that the T5 in NA does not?

Thanks,
Randy

 

[Papa_Kirlo]

Re: Differences between Euro s70 R and NA S70 T5? (ViriiGuy)

I would think that if you compare NA V70R and NA S70 T5 you could come up with a list of things T5 doesn't have..

Here is what I think
- awd
- suede
- dolby
- blue gauges
- sc901

Not sure on engine, someone will add this I'm sure
Plus, S70R were available with manual transmission. I think V70R were too (across the pond).

ps. some of these easy to complete if this is what you think. I did sc901 and Dolby. There are some ppl here who did other upgrades, just look around.

EDIT: DOOR PANELS http://********************/smile/emthup.gif

Modified by Papa_Kirlo at 1:06 PM 4-14-2009

 

[ViriiGuy]

If that is all, then my t5 SE must be about as close as I can get.
It has the SC901 and the Suede. No blue gauges, no AWD and no center channel. I had considered adding the center channel, but was in a V70R with it and was not that impressed.

 

[JRL]

Re: Differences between Euro s70 R and NA S70 T5? (Papa_Kirlo)

S70R's were 98 only and (Europe only) and they could be had in either AWD or FWD, manual or automatic.
Not very many made, probably not more than a handfull, but a 5 speed manual, Saffron S70R should be one of the rarest Volvos ever built.

 

[Big Will]

S70Rs in Europe were only made in '98 and only in FWD. As a manual they came equipped with the M59 5 spd. which is an M56 with a factory LSD. No AWD S70Rs available existed.

Another difference is that as a manual the FWD S70R came with 250 hp stock using a straight flanged 18T turbo. The AWD and FWD Manual V70R in '98 also used an 18T versus the Automatic which is 236hp and a 16T just like in North America.

Hope that helps.

 

[JRL]

Re: (Big Will)

Hate to argue but this is incorrect
I knew someone who had an AWD Saffron S70R (in Europe) way back when.
I don't think many were made but this particular car did exist

 

[christianf]

Re: (JRL)

Yes, there is an Saffron S70R AWD (here in Sweden), but it was custom built. Volvo never made any on their own. They did however produce a few 00 S70 AWD with the lpt engine.

 

[ViriiGuy]

Thank you guys for the responses. I agree with JRL thought hat an R did exist in AWD in the S70's. I came across 2 in my search. At least they say they are AWD.

However, you guys have provided me with what I was looking for.. Again.. Thanks

 

[Big Will]

I promise there were no 98 S70R AWDs that came out of the factory. I didn't even know someone had custom made one - that's fantastic.

If someone advertised having an S70 AWD it had to be a 99 or 00 with an LPT engine or someone who did something custom after the fact.

 

[ViriiGuy]

That is cool. Either someone is fibbing, or they did a bunch of work to make a 99 AWD S70 R

Would be a fun project though. However, I understand that if the car did not come AWD, you can't make it AWD. Something about the bottom pan...floorboard of the car being different. ?? Dunno

 

[Big Will]

You can do it. The concept of making a FWD into an AWD on a gen 1 70 series has been done here in Sweden. I was previously unaware that someone had done it to a FWD S70R but that's a great platform to start with!

You have to buy the tabs for the undercarriage but Volvo sells them. Then of course the rear suspension is quite different so it would be helpful to have a donor car to get the whole swap.

Even making a 99+ S70 AWD into a manual and T5/R motor and 18T turbo would be a great car. Probably a bit faster than the equivalent wagons.

That said, building up an LPT motor is a great way to go as well. They are a lot of fun since you wait a bit less for them to boost. So an easier way would be to take a pre-existing LPT AWD S70 and manual swap it and then upgrade engine parts to accommodate a long list of performance mods.

 

[ViriiGuy]

Big Will, Now that is an idea.

Hmmmmm, Possibly a good project for next winter. Unless I find my V70R or T5 I want.

 

[JRL]

Re: (ViriiGuy)

Real good chance that my silver V70R will be for sale by then and I guarantee you that no matter how much I ask for it (it won't be cheap), that it will be thousands cheaper if you do what Will suggested above and you still may not have anywhere near as nice a car as mine is!

 

[Big Will]

Re: (JRL)

The man speaketh the truth and Jim's cars are always well taken care of.

There's also lots of value in working through a project, especially if you find the right car or already have the right car.

Just look at my own car and the project it has become. It started out as a '98 V70 AWD 190hp 13G turbo etc.
The first upgrade was an IPD stage 1 flash, exhaust and air filter.
Since then it has gotten an M58 manual AWD transmission, a rebuilt 15G turbo, a step up on injectors and a T5 M ECU which worked pretty well but wasn't optimized for the GLT engine. Still not satisfied, I added the S60R manifold and custom made software based off a T5 M map but optimized for the GLT engine from Sweden. I still have plans for a downpipe upgrade and possibly changing the 15G to an angled 16T (very slight power increase there). So you see how project creep goes...over a number of years.

If you want more power than that, you probably would have to put in 450cc injectors (the green ones), an 18T turbo, more custom software for that and all the supporting mods, and you'd likely want to upgrade to stronger rods. Now that would be one hell of a car http://********************/smile/emthup.gif

 

[Runamok]

No sure if it's ok to post a link to another board, but....

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum...01175

Look for pics of the sweetest Volvo ever made, other than being an auto, about 1/3 down the page.

 

[JRL]

Re: (Runamok)

Not too shaby but........RHD, boo!

 

[ViriiGuy]

That Saffron is just beautiful!!

JRL, your V70R I am sure would be a perfect car, but it is the wrong generation and color for what I want.

I love the G2 styling on the V70. The view from the rear on those cars is stunning. And I want black, with Atacama Interior. I am not above adding the interior myself though. But I want black. Or Saffron or Cassis

But mostly black.

 

[JRL]

Re: (ViriiGuy)

It's P2

 

[ViriiGuy]

My bad

P2.