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Say we compare the Turbo version and the GLTS version. I'm only 16 so If I bought a turbo version, insurance would probably be very high. Could I get the non-turbo and put a non-volvo turbo in (better one) w/o any modifications? I was thinking maybe between these two models, engine size/mounting etc would be the same except for a turbo or a missing turbo. Any thoughts? Also, whats the 0-60 time between the two? Thanks!
 

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There is somewhat of a big difference between the high pressure Turbo and the GLT-S (low pressure turbo with sunroof). It also depends on what years you are looking at. The GLT-S will have quicker low end/low speed response because the low pressure turbo spools up faster than the high pressure turbo. After about 30 mph or so, the high pressure turbo is in its zone and will respond well. For highway passing and high speed, the high pressure turbo is better as well.<P>If you bought a non-turbo Volvo and tried to put a non-Volvo turbo inside of it, it would be a huge hassle. By the time you convert a non-turbo Volvo to a turbo Volvo, you could have bought yourself a "real" 850 Turbo or even an 850R.<P>The non-turbo and turbo Volvo engines have quite a few differences to them as well. The high pressure turbo engine is 2.3 liters whereas the low pressure and non-turbo engines are 2.4 liters. The high pressure turbo is 2.3 liters because it has thicker cylinder walls necessary for the more extreme temperatures and pressures. It also has forged pistons, sodium filled valves, and of course an intercooler and lots of additional plumbing. <P>If my memory is correct, the stock boost pressure for the HP engine is 9.6 psi and the boost pressure for the LP engine is 6.4 psi. I think that there is a 1.8 second difference to 60 mph between the LP and HP 850 models.<P>My honest opinion would be to not mess with trying to put a turbo into a non-turbo Volvo. Find yourself a nice 95 or 96 850 Turbo, before OBD II regulations kicked in.<P>-Drew<p>[This message has been edited by InDy (edited 05-17-2001).]
 

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I agree with Indy. Messing with an aftermarket turbo would be a huge hassle. Plus, the T5(high pressure) also is designed for the extra stress and will most likely out last the aftermarket. You also get much better looking wheels and sportier suspension. I'm 17 and LOVE my T5. I couldn't Imagine a better first car! Its fast, reliable, upgradeable, and safe. And, the GLTS is still a turbo, and should be almost as high when it comes to that. It will be worth a little less, but it is still a turbo.<P>--Got to go to class!<BR>Austin<p>[This message has been edited by turboale (edited 05-17-2001).]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by turboale:<BR><B>I'm 17 and LOVE my T5. I couldn't Imagine a better first car.<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Me neither. I can't even imagine a better last car. I will be 30 this summer and just settled for a base model 850 (cloth seats and steel wheels). I was 26 when I got my wife's 940. My first car was a toyota pickup with the rust bed. That thing went 120k miles on maybe half dozen oil changes! <P>UrbanTech, be grateful for what you end up with. You got alot of years to move up.<P><P>
 

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Long live Toyota! My dad had a two door 89 4runner until a few years ago, with almost 200,000 miles on it and the only thing he had to replace in that car was a timing belt. He did all the oil/tune ups him self and hated selling it. What are everyeone else's first cars?<P>--Austin
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by turboale:<BR><B>What are everyeone else's first cars?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>1987 244 DL. Bought it 8/99 at 132,500 miles, now at 146,634 miles. I had a lot of work done in the first 6 months I owned the car to catch up on the maintenance, but it's been almost trouble free for over a year.<P>
 

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I started with a 79 Olds Cutlass with 305 CID. My 854 Turbo is car number 14 for me. I still have the 850 and am restoring a 68 Dodge Charger RT 440 and my girl friend drives my 92 Prelude. Oh, and to add to the original post and topic...Buy the T-5 from the start. By the time you buy all of the aftermarket BS your'e insurance premimum savings will be nothing in contrast.<P>Prospero
 

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My first and only car is a 1986 Volvo 745 Turbo Wagon with M46 4spd + overdirve. It is dark gray with tan interior that is part leather and part checked velor that I've heard was only somthing they did that year. I think the seat looks nice but I want to replace the center velor section with blue leather. Why blue? Because then it will match my shift knob, AM/FM/CD headunit, sub box, turbobrick sticker, city lights, backlit emblem, and the center caps of my wheels.<P>I have a website, maybe someday I will start building it and put pics of my car on it.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by towerymt:<BR><B> I had a lot of work done in the first 6 months I owned the car to catch up on the maintenance, but it's been almost trouble free for over a year.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I had that same experience. My dad bought my car on 4-99 and for the first couple months it was in the shop every other week. After a new radiatior, water pump, thermostat, multiple belts and hoses, turbo (that was expensive <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/frown.gif"> ), battery, and a couple other electical problems the car seems to run just fine. About a week ago I broke the clamp on the battery lead which I fixed for $2.99. I told my dad with all the money he spent to keep my car running it would have been chaeper to buy a 850r. I found one up in Canada with a stick for $15k canadian which is only like $10K american. Even though I love my car I am temped to go look at it. I talked to a dealer in the US and he said that the car only needed the EPA sticker to come into the country. Does it have the US EPA sticker? <P>
 
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