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Did you know that the S60R had 330hp at start, but volvo found out that their new gearbox didn´t handle the power, so they had to lower it to 300hp. The swedish police got the first 330hp engine, with the 6-speed gearbox, to test it out. They tested it without the AWD system, with front wheel drive only..<p>/Eric
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (iqbad)

Very interesting indeed, I would imagine the Haldex could do better than that.
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (iqbad)

I think with AWD the load on the gearbox would only be higher.
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (iqbad)

If the power was reduced due to gearbox issues, what's that mean for the public?<p>How are we supposed to hop up the car if the limiting issue is the tranny? (provided any of us can actually get our hands on this swede)
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (drPheta)

My personal opinion on what really happened.<br>First cars are always tested with higher power compared to what they will have when the come to the market.<br>Second I think the reason for "lowering" the spec is due to the Geartronic gearbox.<br>Volvo wanted to bring the R with both a manual and an automatic version but has shown so far that the R AWD geartronic only reaches 350Nm, 50 less compared to the manual.<br>The 300HP spec for the GT is reached at 6000 RPM ,what if the manual would have reached an easy capable top of 380Nm at 6000RPM?(320HP) it would have been an über R compared to the GT which probably doesn't perform much better as a T5.......<br>There has been talk of 320 HP R's from day one, a number which can easaly be reached given the spec of the R engine.<br>That engine with full CVVT, larger displacement, Very high low end torque capability which says something about the strength of the internal parts and the overall spec of the engine pheripherals says it can do 330-350 HP without a sigh.<p>I think the only reason for the lower spec is the GT box and nothing else.
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (iqbad)

Well, a swedish carmagazine wrote about the 330hp, but I´ve also heard it (and the police testings) from some friends at work (which is actually at SAAB hrmm..) but still, I wouldn´t worry too much, I´ve never heard about a broken M56, and I know that there are guys with 500+hp using this gearbox for dragracing..
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (Johann)

I don't see why they can do the same thing Honda did w/ their NSX and whimp out the HP rating for the auto version.<p>Don't know how to drive stick? The live with less HP. Got too much traffic to drive with stick.....move to a different town. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> J/K....
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (The_one_n_only)

Normally an automatic gearbox would handle power better then a manual. There are no ways to brake it by shifting! It is harder to make a manual gearbox that lasts! For example: There where only 3 S80T6 made with an manual gearbox. On these they had to lower the tourqe and thereby also lower the engine´s power, just because the manual couldn´t cope with the power!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> There where only 3 S80T6 made with an manual gearbox. On these they had to lower the tourqe and thereby also lower the engine´s power, just because the manual couldn´t cope with the power!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>For what country? And any S80 2.0 T-5 that I have driven, so far, did not feel like ti was limited at all!<p><br>Yannis
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (GrecianVolvo)

Sweden near the factory.<br>I heard they are still driving around.<br>It was some sort of 3 shaft gearbox and very compact but it couldn't hold the torque.<br>Correct me if I'm wrong.<p>The 2.8T6 was designed for ~320 HP.<br>The GT is holding it back also because of the 380Nm torque limit.<BR><BR>
[Modified by Johann, 12:10 PM 10-27-2002]
 

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Re: Did you know? S60R (VolvoMax)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>How many ft-lbs is 380nm?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>400nm = ~300ft-lbs
 
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