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With my dearly beloved namesake returned safely to the dealer, I am now in search of a new fine European Sedan. I was minding my own business one day searching for stupidly cheap used A4's (and having no luck) when I saw a banner for SweedSpeed over on the Vortex and discovered a whole new world of cars that I never would have considered before. Different looking (that's good), fast, reliable (road to school every day in a 240 that was WAY beyond 200k), and safe. I can't believe I never considered this before.<P>So, on to my elusive questions.<P>1. I am looking for something fast and tunable, am I correct in assuming the 800 series is my only option if I want to stay sub 15k but "whatever the opposite of sub is" 1994-95? Pro 1995? What the heck is the opposite of pre anyway? Oh yeah, post. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/redface.gif"> Nevermind. Post 1994-95. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>2. Having seen the 850R project car, is a 1997 854 the same as an 850R? It's on Autotrader and I can't get very much info until tomorrow, thought I'd ask you kind folks. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> It has a 4-speed manual, I hadn't heard of a Volvo with a manual, I'm sure it is just my stereotype, but is there anything wrong with the Volvo Manual Transmissions? Would I be better off searching for an Auto?<P>3. Any suggestions? Recommendations?<P>Thanks!<P>-P<P>
 

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If you're in the US, you won't find an 850R with a manual trans. A 1997 854 (800 series, the 5 means 5-cyl, and the 4 means 4-doors. 855 would be a wagon), may have the 20V 5cyl. engine (about 168HP), or it may have the turbo engine (about 222HP), and the 850R has 240HP. Also, the manual trans should be a 5spd, not 4spd. If you do want a manual transmission, look for an 850 Turbo. If you don't mind the auto, then an 850R may be a good choice to suit the need of "fast and tuneable." The 850R has about 20HP more than the Turbo, it has a nicer seats, sportier front and rear spoilers, and 17" wheels. I think the suspension is upgraded over the other 850s, but I don't know the specifics.<P>Check out <A HREF="http://www.ipdusa.com" TARGET=_blank>www.ipdusa.com</A> and <A HREF="http://www.volvotuning.com" TARGET=_blank>www.volvotuning.com</A> for more info on performance options for the 850.<P>Good luck.<P>
 

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I just bought a '95 850 sedan for $11,200. It has 82k miles. Would have paid less if I wasn't upside down in my vw lease. Doesn't seem any quicker than my golf, but I leave it in economy mode. I immagine that a turbo would make it much more fun in a few instances.<P>You can tune them. In addition to the links posted by towerymt, try <A HREF="http://www.easternaerospace.com." TARGET=_blank>www.easternaerospace.com.</A> Look at what you will pay in $/Hp and see how quickly your sub $15k car can be as much as a car that you would have bought for the money. Remember also, that suspension, brakes, and propper tires should be the first upgrade. You could spend a few thousand there.<P>If you are on a budget, why not buy the car you want for the money and admire the cars that look sweet and are worth more to the owner than to anyone else? People do it all the time with a spouse.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Washington Irving:<BR><B>Look at what you will pay in $/Hp and see how quickly your sub $15k car can be as much as a car that you would have bought for the money. Remember also, that suspension, brakes, and propper tires should be the first upgrade. You could spend a few thousand there.<P>If you are on a budget, why not buy the car you want for the money and admire the cars that look sweet and are worth more to the owner than to anyone else? People do it all the time with a spouse.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You lost me Mr. Irving,<P>Are you saying I shouldn't buy a Volvo because it would cost too much to upgrade? OR that a Volvo dosen't cost all that much to make it a seriously fast sedan. I'm confused. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><BR>
 

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The short answer is that it from all my research, it costs no more to make a killer volvo than a killer audi. The principles are the same. Lots of cool, clean air comming in (boost), good combustion (ignition and ecu), and least restrictive exhaust path. There are companies that can get you there for volvos. The advantage of the audi/vw path is that there are more people to help you.<P>All that other crap was me being like an old man, presuming that you needed my advice on whether to mod your car <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"> I am happy to keep mine on the road without giving any more money to my local dealership or some crooked shop.<P>
 

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on the subject of the 850r...if YOU REALLY REALLY WANT A 5 SPEED(AS I WOULD)...GUESS WHAT?850RS SENT TO CANDA HAD AUTOS AND 5 SPEEDS.If YOU DONT know much about the 850r heres a little run down...it is a blast,though you may want to drive it locally as it is alot harsher ride than in the 850turbo,you can have it any color as long as its red or black,there is an 850r wagon as well.the 17 inch wheels on the R are absolutely stunning,but go with the michelins as they offer a longer life than the pirelli p zeros,also they are 7 spoke wheels,5 on the p.if ride harshness is a problem just go with the 850 turbo ,it is a great all around car.
 
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