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Looks like the Extreme contact has been replaced by the DWS. Totally different tire and a much different tread pattern. <p>Anyone heard anything or have any experience? <p>Thanks! <p><A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...t+DWS</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/conti/co_xtrcontactdws_ci2_l.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Conti Extreme Contact DWS (Needsdecaf)

Just put these on a set of 17" Pegs on my brothers S60 2.5T, it truly an amazing upgrade from the ContiExtremeContacts which I currently have on my 18" Pegs.<br>
 

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Re: Conti Extreme Contact DWS (Needsdecaf)

I just had these installed on my '04 V70 2.5T and so far (about 300 miles) I am very pleased. Size is 235-45/17. My old Michelins still had some tread left, but they were starting to howl. The new Contis are very quiet, and they have a firm but comfortable ride for this relatively low profile size. I can't really comment on the tires' handling because our driving style is pretty non-aggressive, but they seem plenty sticky, dry or wet. They also don't rub quite as bad as the Michelins (yes, I have spacers). I did have trouble getting a good balance, but the third time was a charm. I attribute the balance difficulties to incompetent or careless techs, not the tires themselves. The tires look great on the V70.
 

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Re: Conti Extreme Contact DWS - first impressions (Needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like the Extreme contact has been replaced by the DWS. Totally different tire and a much different tread pattern. <p>Anyone heard anything or have any experience? <p>Thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yowza! Had them put on this afternoon, with light snow falling in temps just below freezing (since pre-dawn)... My normal route home from the tire shop, towards/via I-25, was clogged up so I took the surface streets. Right away some bonehead with a trailer going the wrong way caused a very sudden accordioning in traffic. I braked suddenly, and got ABS (a first for me in this caR). I know 2 of the tires' stickers hadn't come off fully, but that still seemed like a significant loss of grip (on cold wet pavement) compared to what I'm rather certain the overconfidence-inspiring UHP Summer tires would have done there.<p>I'd been running the UHP <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=121538&postid=1336197#1336197" TARGET="_blank">Hankook K110s</A> at 33F/32R for reasons of comfort. So I told the shop to give me 34F/33R. Driving home, they felt a little numb on-center. But it turns out they'd given me a good 2# less than what I'd asked for, which I added before heading out again 1.5 hrs later. Then they felt better (though still not as crisp on-center as the K110s). By then some of the moist streets were sporting blotches of very slick ice in spots. I found ABS, I found DSTC; it was a nice gentle intro for me. There was one spot, descending to an overpass, where drivers were afraid to go 20 in a 40 but 40 was conservative in the R. I don't think these tires will ever inspire over-confidence in me the way the K110s (they have limits?) tended to, but I was glad to have the DWSs, and not the K110s, on tonight. They acquitted themselves very well overall, but perhaps not brilliantly (in the spots that were clearly best-suited to ice tires, they were just OK). BTW, the conditions were sufficiently hazardous in spots that both the city and county were inundated with accident reports and had switched to cold-reporting (just exchange info, report it later, unless injuries/impairments).<p>The DWSs' more open tread pattern is a little noisier than was the K110s', but that's not saying much, because the K110s were practically mute (...on rougher pavement, there was more road noise, sure, but it never seemed like tire noise with the K110s; with the DWSs, at least in comparison, it does).<p>While at the shop, I made sure to squeeze the sidewalls. I do this because the mounted+inflated tire's compliance (spring rate) is a function of its inflation pressure plus its mechanical resistance to bending. So I put the heel of the palm of my hand on the shoulder of the tread and grip the bead with my fingers and grip/squeeze. By doing that to both the K110s (once dismounted, my first opportunity, 'cuz they'd come with the caR) and the DWSs, I had a good sense of how much more comfortable the DWSs would be even before I left the shop. The K110 is midway between firm and soft, with great(/perfect?) linearity/uniformity in bending resistance across the height of the sidewall. In contrast, the DWS has less resistance to flexing, with a great lack of uniformity: it's clearly made to flex -- as if it's thinnest -- right at the middle of the sidewall's height.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>slanich544</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did have trouble getting a good balance, but the third time was a charm. I attribute the balance difficulties to incompetent or careless techs</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I haven't had them above 75 yet; they seemed OK. The shop has a new (to me) Hunter balancer that tells the tech where to put how much weights, but then on the respin, instead of revealing how much imbalance remains, just says "OK". <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> It's supposed to use less weight to achieve balance than the old machine. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> It also spins at a significantly lower speed than in the past (35 instead of 55?).<p>Bottom line: they're pretty nice tires; the caR's ride is better cushioned, and after 1 cold slick day it looks like they were a good choice to get the caR through the winter. The camera offer form said it should be here, unless supplies are too limited, by February...
 
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