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Just ticked over 41k miles and I'm debating a change....Tops on the list right now are an E39 M5, Stage III S4 and if I'm a glutton for punishment, an 03 Mustang Cobra. <p>On a side note, I got my Ipod hardwired into the car and it's the best thing ever.
 

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Re: Considering selling the R (Jay_SB)

Not sure if there's a question in your post or what your dilemma is...<p>Someone else's used car problems or your own? None of the cars you mentioned is perfect or at all line up with one another pricewise or in any other way.<p>1) A good used M5 is probably the best of the bunch but will cost about as much as a new R.<br>2) When you say a "Stage III S4" I'm assuming that you're talking about a B5 2.7T model, which is remit with engine problems before you even start adding stages. So, the real issue would be whether or not you're considering buying a used S4 to mod up to Stage III or buying a car that has already been modified (and probably beaten to death by the kid who did it).<br>3) And then there's the Mustang. The engine is a beast, but its installed in a chassis that dates back to '79. And, most (not all) who bought a Cobra probably drove it like it was meant to be driven...hard. It's also by far...a distant, distant...very distant 3rd in terms of luxury. Of all three cars, this is the one I'd place as least reliable.<p>The M5 is probably the only one of the bunch where you will have more luck (IMHO) finding a 'commuter' or more lightly driven model. A lot of M5 owners buy the M5 because they can and because they think it's a status symbol, and most probably don't get driven as hard as the other cars. The S4 is much less of a status car. People bought them because they were speed junkies (why most of us bought our Rs...although MOST R owners probably fall into the M5-ish category, who bought it because they could afford it and because it was Volvo's hailo model).<p>-Eric
 

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Re: Considering selling the R (Jay_SB)

A good E39 M5 may cost you more than a new R, but it's by far the best car of this bunch. I don't see any point in trading a used Volvo for a used Audi. A mustang????? You'll get tired of that thing in about 2 days. How about a new 330i? It's a little ugly but it still drives better than anything from Audi or Volvo.
 

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Re: Considering selling the R (Sue Esponte)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Sue Esponte</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The M5 is probably the only one of the bunch where you will have more luck (IMHO) finding a 'commuter' or more lightly driven model. A lot of M5 owners buy the M5 because they can and because they think it's a status symbol, and most probably don't get driven as hard as the other cars.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would agree with this. A work colleague of mine leased an '03 M5 because he really loved his previous 540i (both E39 versions). He ended up hardly driving it because it was so fast that it scared him. I think he put less than 15,000 miles on it in 3 years.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>A work colleague of mine leased an '03 M5 because he really loved his previous 540i (both E39 versions). He ended up hardly driving it because it was so fast that it scared him. I think he put less than 15,000 miles on it in 3 years. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Was he driving it with his high heels on? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Considering selling the R (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He ended up hardly driving it because it was so fast that it scared him. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Didn't know this condition existed.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I would agree with this. A work colleague of mine leased an '03 M5 because he really loved his previous 540i (both E39 versions). He ended up hardly driving it because it was so fast that it scared him. I think he put less than 15,000 miles on it in 3 years. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>.......<p>Let's not make fun of this person. Some high performance cars are very easy to drive under 'tame' traffic situations, and others are not. The Honda S2000 is quite easy to control, since the engine is pretty gutless until the 6000 rpm point, where the VTEC high lift cam cuts in. Keep the rpm's low, and you have a *****cat in your hands. I had an RX-7 twin turbo which was very dangerous to control. Almost impossible to smoothly control clutch engagement, and the combination of a very rapidly rising torque curve in the low to mid rpm range, plus a lot of turbo lag, could lead to sudden increases in acceleration beyond what was intended, coupled with wild gyrations of the rear axle - quite a handful. Local Mazda dealer only sold about 10 of them, not counting the one that was totalled during a test drive.
 

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Re: Considering selling the R (bschurr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bschurr</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Was he driving it with his high heels on? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, but he's used to driving excavators and bulldozers which have a slightly lower top speed.<p>But more torque. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Considering selling the R (Jay_SB)

Of the three that you mentioned i think that the Cobra would be a great change of pace(if thats what you are looking for) Personally, I am a muscle car guy at heart, and would jump at the chance for an Cobra(assuming I wasnt in college, and I had a job, and I had the money to buy it, and i wasnt dependent upon my parents) but those minor things aside I would get something to spin some tires with. That said, it might get old quick, so instead of those three cars that you are looking at, maybe consider the S2K, and also I heard something abuot a special edition STi with leather seats, sound system, folding rear seat. If you are interested let me know and ill get some more information on it. For the record, my friend with an STi saw the "special" edition, which is also very limited, at a car show this summer.
 
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