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Hi All,<P>I have a black V70 T5 with a clear paint protect from the dealership applied to it.<P>As with all black cars, it is just a matter of time before the swirls appear.<P>I have done some research on the internet and have come across the following 3M product. (listed below post)<P>Does anyone have any experience with the following product, or others, either to recommend or to stay away from?<P><<< 3M™ Perfect-It™ Foam Polishing Pad Glaze Swirlmark Remover, 16 oz, PN 39109 - $11.64 <BR>Designed for light colored vehicles. Quickly removes light surface imperfections, swirl marks, light oxidation or minor stains, and produces a deep rich, swirl-free finish. Excellent for hand polishing applications. Clear coat safe. No wax or silicone. >>><P><BR>One more question: what does it matter it there is silicone or no silicone in the product?<P>Thanks in advance,<P>sporto gordo
 

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I may have misunderstood something, but it says its for light colored cars, and you say yours is black, I believe thats a dark color. I dont know for sure what it matters, I just follow those directions, dont want an damage done to the paint cuz I missed something. Anyway, I use a glaze or light buffing compound with good results. The 3M products are alright, but not my favorite. I like Zymol a lot, but man is it expensive, and it seems harder to apply than others. I also strongly believe in multistage detailing, I dont think any wax can do it all. I use a prewax cleaner, usually will remove the wax, so then it wont build up, but then you should put more than one or two coats of wax on the car. Paint sealers are nice, but they arent as good at stopping swirl marks as they are at simply protecting paint from the elements, like acid rain and bugs. Pinnacle, surluster, and one grand products are brands I prefer over 3M. I know it seems like a pain, but once a year I like to give my car that special treatment, I use a real carnuba wax paste. The kind that you apply with your bare hands, let the heat of your hands melt the wax some. Its a neat experience, like finger painting, and a little spiritual. Very tactile, you become one with the car, feel every beauty mark, imperfection, peice of grit, whatever. The shine I get, and the protection is unmatched, but it can take a whole day sometimes. Well thats all I got on the subject.
 

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... oops, I posted the wrong product description... thanks for noting that, and thanks for your reply.<P>I went to order the 3M product, but they only ship in the states, I am in Vancouver Canada, so I will have to ship it so a friend's place in Washington and then go get it. A bit of a hassle.<P>Cheers<P>sporto gordo 8)
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sporto gordo:<BR><B>Hi All,<P>I have a black V70 T5 with a clear paint protect from the dealership applied to it.<P>As with all black cars, it is just a matter of time before the swirls appear.<P>I have done some research on the internet and have come across the following 3M product. (listed below post)<P>Does anyone have any experience with the following product, or others, either to recommend or to stay away from?<P><<< 3M™ Perfect-It™ Foam Polishing Pad Glaze Swirlmark Remover, 16 oz, PN 39109 - $11.64 <BR>Designed for light colored vehicles. Quickly removes light surface imperfections, swirl marks, light oxidation or minor stains, and produces a deep rich, swirl-free finish. Excellent for hand polishing applications. Clear coat safe. No wax or silicone. >>><P><BR>One more question: what does it matter it there is silicone or no silicone in the product?<P>Thanks in advance,<P>sporto gordo</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Black cars.. *sigh* the hardest cars to keep looking nice... YET..the reward is immense. for scratches and swirls.. 3M part 39009 is good for getting them out. BUT... with a black car..and EXTREME attention to small details.. you will also want to use a LESS abrasive polish AFTER you are done with the 3m. I recommend Meguiars Deep Crystal polish step 2 for a middle step before you wax the car with a quality wax or apply a synthetic polish.<P>Best of luck.. this info is from my black car experience.. took care of one... still looking SWEET!! and going to get another one <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>
 

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Hey Gordo.. you may want to check out Distinctive Detailing in North Van. I took my XC there during the winter and they did a great job. <P>Main reason I'm mentioning them though is I also recall that they sell a lot of the products that they use, 3M being one of their favorite brands.<P>Worth a shot anyways. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>Talk to John there, he's exceptionally knowledgeable.<P><A HREF="http://yp.superpages.ca/listings.phtml?SRC=mybc&STYPE=S&PG=L&R=N&C=&N=distinctive+detailing&T=north+vancouver&S=BC" TARGET=_blank>Their contact info</A><P>
 

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The part # is 39009, 3M SMR for dark cars. If you end up using it get a foam applicator and apply it front to rear on the panels just like how the wind would travel across the car as it moved, not in circular motion as it says on the bottle. The Deep Crystal Polish is actually a glaze, it will "fill" the swirl marks the 3M didn't remove. It's a good product, (DCP) but may be counter productive to removing swirls. You could wax over the DCP but when the wax wears away so won't the DCP and you'll be seeing the swirls again. It depends on what type of routine you want to maintain.
 

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Thanks all for your comments,<P>have been away for awhile...<P>so, after discussion with the boy's at the dealership, I decided to let the pro's take care of it rather then myself trying to do it... after I costed it all out with the porducts that I and others here have posted... it was going to run $ 100.00 anyways... so I took it over to a lexus dealer in town here and they did the cut polish with zymol... or something like that.<P>they did a great job on getting it looking good, and for $150, it was worth having them do it.<P>Coastal, thanks for the tip, will check them out next time.<P>Cheers all<P>sporto gordo,<P>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sporto gordo:<BR><B>Thanks all for your comments,<P>have been away for awhile...<P>so, after discussion with the boy's at the dealership, I decided to let the pro's take care of it rather then myself trying to do it... after I costed it all out with the porducts that I and others here have posted... it was going to run $ 100.00 anyways... so I took it over to a lexus dealer in town here and they did the cut polish with zymol... or something like that.<P>they did a great job on getting it looking good, and for $150, it was worth having them do it.<P>Coastal, thanks for the tip, will check them out next time.<P>Cheers all<P>sporto gordo,<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>glad to hear it.. now you are going to be responsible for keeping it up like that :p<P>if you prefer a wax.. i say use the same zymol.. or even meguiars gold class<BR>
 
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