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Great... wife got this today, and engine stalled. She restarted the car after, and light remained off, and has been driving it for the last hour, without the light.<p>I'll obviously have to get it taken in now and see what the heck is going on.<p>On Volvo's, does this light work like it does on Audi's? What I mean is that on Audi's, I'm used to this:<p>* a solid CHECK ENGINE Light means you can keep driving it, but need to get it checked out soon,<p>* a flashing CHECK ENGINE Light means that you must pull over and turn off car, hence much more urgent.<p>The manual does not refer to solid vs. flashing CHECK ENGINE Lights, just says when you see it, you need to have it checked out.<br>
 

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Re: CHECK ENGINE Malfunction Indicator Light came on and car stalled (Lotus99)

Take it to the dealer, there will be a stored code in the system
 

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Re: CHECK ENGINE Malfunction Indicator Light came on and car stalled (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take it to the dealer, there will be a stored code in the system</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Update: Car's been running fine ever since then, oddly enough (I shouldn't complain!) so it was a one time thing it seems for now.<p>Today, I took it in for service, and all they said was something about a solenoid throwing a code and a bunch of things about an algorithm. The SA said a software update was done for that. He hadn't finished the paperwork yet by the time the car was ready, so I've not seen what's written on the work order.<p>Is it normal for me to ask for the details of their scan to see the actual codes?<p>Does it make sense that some sort of software bug (what he made it sound like) would actually cause the car to stall? I'd have thought something physical malfunctioning and not sending enough fuel for example to the engine might cause a stall. I asked if he was sure this solenoid wasn`t malfunctioning and needed replacement and he said no.<p>I'm worried the diagnosis wasn't correct and it might leave us stranded somewhere the next time and not restart right away...<p>What are your thoughts? Does any of what I said make sense? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I'll post more details too when I get the copy of my work order in the mail.
 

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Re: CHECK ENGINE Malfunction Indicator Light came on and car stalled (Lotus99)

This sounds really familiar...my 08 XC70 had the check engine light come on and stay on (no stalling out thought). To fix the problem the dealership had to install the software for a T6, wipe it off and then re-install the software for a regular XC70. <p>They also replaced the fuel pump, fuel tank, and something in the evap system at the same time. When I spoke to the service manager he indicated that because the software was buggy it had cause the problems in the evap system which led to the fuel pump/fuel tank issues...<p>Good luck!
 

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Re: CHECK ENGINE Malfunction Indicator Light came on and car stalled (uberchick)

Crazy... so that was their diagnosis and they did all those things after just one check engine light? if not, how many times and how often did it happen to you?
 

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Re: CHECK ENGINE Malfunction Indicator Light came on and car stalled (Lotus99)

Check engine light came on twice but the car never stalled out. First time round a sticky value in the evap system was blamed and replaced (think this was at 1200 miles). Second time was when they ripped the car apart looking for the problem but they couldn't find anything as the car wasn't throwing back any codes, which is weird - right? I was told that there were known issues with the fuel tanks/evap system that could cause the check engine light to trigger. Anyway they called Volvo Tech line (I believe that's what they called it) who suggested the software install fix (This was at 2000 miles).<p>Have you had many electronic/functional issues with the car? My 08 XC70 had so many electronic problems that Volvo eventually called it a lemon and replaced it with a new 09(picked it up two weeks ago). It could be the dealership were hyper sensitive to those issues hence the reason for all the work.<p>
 

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Re: CHECK ENGINE Malfunction Indicator Light came on and car stalled (uberchick)

Wow.... sounds like you had quite the ordeal with your last one! Good to hear at least you got a new one out of it!<p>I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this was a one time thing and related to software, which they claim an update should have fixed. It just seems so odd that some sort of software glitch would shut the engine down, I always thought mechanical would cause that, like a bad fuel pump, fuel injector, or something.<p>So it concerns me that we might be driving up to the mountains one day with two little kids, and it might just decide to shut off. I don't like it when they can't properly diagnose an issue... mysteries are not good!
 

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Sorry, I didn't get around to posting the results after I asked them for the VIDA report. Apparently, they're not allowed to let customers see them... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> Don't know if it's some baloney story to prevent customers from knowing too much about their cars?<p>The work order just says:<p><B>Hook up and install software. 1 30785205 0 ECM GASOLINE RELOAD<br>FC: 10BB</B><p>I read the report though, and while I couldn't keep a copy, it said:<p><B>Found codes ECM P017068 Fuel Trim, P17068 Engine shut off solenoid, P0A0F68 Engine Failed to start, P151B68 Idle Speed Lower.<p>All the codes were proceeded with "algorithm based failures". The solution was to upgrade some part of the software I understood.</B><p>Can anyone make any sense of the above codes and work order details? Is this something to be worried about? I always thought that an engine shutting off was a fuel problem, and therefore something mechanical, like injectors, fuel pump, etc. not software? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I'm worried because we're also going on a big road trip with the babies and don't want to think even of the car leaving us stranded on the highway somewhere... At least luckily, the problem's only happened that one time about two months ago after driving the car for 6 months. But then again, I hate mysteries, and think that I'll be lucky again sometime when I really don't want to be!
 

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Re: Update (Lotus99)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Lotus99</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Can anyone make any sense of the above codes and work order details? Is this something to be worried about? I always thought that an engine shutting off was a fuel problem, and therefore something mechanical, like injectors, fuel pump, etc. not software? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Modern cars are all about software. The motor management is tied in to the car's network. If the network goes down the engine stalls. <p>The engine is started using the push button. Information is needed to tell the immobilizer the car can start if the proper key is inserted, or within radio range. AT/GT shifter must be in correct position, manual cars must have the clutch pedal engaged. After that there are a zillion of other checks before the engine receives the go.<p>If all was handled by the dealer like it should I wouldn't worry to much. <p>
 
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