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Tried to change my original post title, it did not seem to change <U>http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=120898</U><p>Wanted all who use search function to know Castrol IMV may not be a suitable as a 3309 replacement.<p>It says "not for Volvo five speeds" on the bottle?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Q-Ship at 7:21 PM 6-23-2009</i>
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

Don't jump to a hasty conclusion here. Castrol's online data sheet begs to differ. I suggest that you contact them and ask for an explanation of the discrepancy.<p>FYI to all readers, Mobil has reformulated their Mobil 1 ATF to make it JWS 3309 compliant. This happened sometime in the latter half of '08, best I can tell. Be advised there may be old stock on the shelves which is not, so read the labels before you buy.
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (MrTippy)

Thanks Tippy, I'll have to e-mail Castrol and ask them what the deal is. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Just sent Castrol a request. We'll see what they have to say.<br><BR><BR>
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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

According to Castrol it is.....Castrol's reply to my inquiry below<p>Thank you for contacting Castrol North America,<p>Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF is now OK to use for Volvo 5-speed models.<p>Originally we did state the our Import Multi-Vehicle ATF may be used in all Volvo's (except for 5-speed) but later our supplier gave us an update and said it was OK for use in Volvo 5-speed's as well.<p>Castrol's PDS for the product has been updated to reflect this although due to prior distribution of our fluids, some bottles may not reflect this updated information however the product is approved.<p>Castrol Consumer Relations<p>Who's their supplier? I thought they were the supplier?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Q-Ship</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who's their supplier? I thought they were the supplier?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is a quirky statement, although it could be just a big company artifact: they are getting it from another division that is a separate operating entity from whom they buy it. I would still email them back and ask "are you not manufacturing this stuff yourselves?" Of course, there is only one answer to that question, but we can still have fun.<p>Maybe their supplier is Mobil. I can say one thing, at the prices they are selling it at, someone is making some money.
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Q-Ship</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to Castrol it is.....Castrol's reply to my inquiry below<p>Thank you for contacting Castrol North America,<p>Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF is now OK to use for Volvo 5-speed models.<p>Originally we did state the our Import Multi-Vehicle ATF may be used in all Volvo's (except for 5-speed) but later our supplier gave us an update and said it was OK for use in Volvo 5-speed's as well.<p>Castrol's PDS for the product has been updated to reflect this although due to prior distribution of our fluids, some bottles may not reflect this updated information however the product is approved.<p> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>That does not breed confidence.<br>Why do some of you INSIST on using a fluid other than 3309? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>You can buy Toyota type 4 for about 5 bucks a bottle and it's the SAME STUFF as Volvo bottled fluid or Mobil 1 itself
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>That does not breed confidence. </TD></TR></TABLE>- Agreed<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do some of you INSIST on using a fluid other than 3309? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>You can buy Toyota type 4 for about 5 bucks a bottle and it's the SAME STUFF as Volvo bottled fluid or Mobil 1 itself </TD></TR></TABLE>- <p>No one insists on anything, Castrol's e-mail could also mean that it too is Mobil 3309, who knows. <br>Price is not the issue, sourcing is. Having a source that is local to all nationwide is the root of this exercise. As it stands myself, the only way to get 3309 is by having it shipped to me or Type 4, at the toyota dealer (is that $5 price at the dealer?) If so then I'm off to the Toyota dealer, there's enough of them....<p>I also asked Castrol if the product was always useable, or if there may be some old stock out there that would not be in spec- they said<p>"The formulation has always been usable, it was just not approved.<br>Due to prior distribution of our fluids, some bottles may not reflect this updated information however the product is approved.<p>Castrol Consumer Relations"<br><BR><BR>
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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

Yes Toyota dealer.<br><B>IT'S A TOYOTA </B>for God's sake.<br>They can't charge a premium for tranny fluid, no one would buy it from them!<p>It's not expensive fluid, you buy a case at about $5.00 a bottle from Mobil.<br>It's only VOLVO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> who adds $10 to a bottle for their re-labeled stuff
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

Mazda & Ford also sell the relabeled 3309 and, last I checked two years ago, the Ford package was under $4/qt. Don't have a clue as to what it is now...<br>
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (MrTippy)

Well I tried to get the castrol Rep to show his/her hand. In a roundabout way asking if they get any component of their fluid (base stock or modifiers) from mobil. I guess that will never happen.<p>hope he/she's not a SS'er....if you are forget you read this...move along nothing to see here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: CASTROL IMPORT MUTI VEHICLE IS NOT JWS 3309 SPEC'd (Q-Ship)

Mobile makes a multi vehiclefluid that specifies 3309 compliant. Wonder if Castrol is getting it from them? I had posted about this maybe 6 months or so ago, and one of the members said the viscosity for the MV was less than the 3309. I just bought 2 cases of the Toyota type 4 last Thursday and paid $3.39 a quart. I thought the clerk made a mistake, but she said gave me a discount. Vacaville, CA Toyota, for anyone in the area.<p>Jerry
 
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