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So I dropped the wagon off today at the dealer. Still waiting to hear the report. I'm afraid it may be my evaporator on my a/c. Maybe they can just recharge it and add freon to get me through the summer and I could fix it later. Car is drifting to the right about 10 degrees after sway bars were installed. The hose from the ECU has holes in the baffles and is being replaced.<p>Will let you know the report.
 

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Re: Car at dealer today...a/c work and alignment and hose (soledoc)

Not a good report. they did do an alignment...and even gave me a coupon for 20% off! Replaced the air duct hose from the ECM with the broken baffles ($18 part). So that was $130 total. But....the evaporator coil on the a/c is dead <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> They said it's a "gas leak" or something. Basically it can't be recharged and you can't add freon. $1500 replacement. I talked to a patient who owns a reputable foreign car repair shop and he quoted me $1150 without seeing the car. he said it's $$$$ because it's labor intensive at about 5-6 hours. Volvo said the part was $500....so at $90/hr they're saying it would take 10 hours <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> That doesn't add up. I asked him how much time it would take and he said on a "good day" for the tech it would be 4-5 hours. <p>So...my question would be should I save the $350 and take it to my friend's shop? Is this evaporator critical to be done by the dealer or not?<p>I was cursing the saffron beast this afternoon for a while as I was driving home in near 100% humidity and 85 degrees with no A/C <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> but I suppose I'll keep it and shell out some more dough. Or, JRL, might make me a deal on a 2000 V70R and dump this orange beast!
 

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The A/C Evap is a huge job. $1150 is a good price. Your only other option is to do it yourself; set aside a weekend, a few friends, and a lot of beer.
 

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It's an 8 to 10 hr job. <B>CANNOT</B> be done in 5 hours
 

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Looks like I'll be going the $1150 route. How long can I expect this to last? 100K miles? So the way I figure it they're charging me $60/hr at 8-10hrs. = $480-$600 labor + $500 part = $1150. I'll bite the bullet and do it. Anybody else here had this done on their car? Was it just the 98 V70s and earlier 850s that had the problems?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>soledoc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Was it just the 98 V70s and earlier 850s that had the problems?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>ALL 850's and S&V70's all enjoy <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> the same crappy evaporator, (all the way to 2000)<br>We thought it was limited to 850's but now as the 70's are becoming older it's happening to them.<br>It's a same part, related to time; they all (80-90%) rust out and crack.<br>You won't have the car that long, it takes years for it to fail
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>soledoc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like I'll be going the $1150 route. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wouldn't have blamed you for using the dealer but seeing it's a reputable independent shop, I think you made the right choice. <p>Good luck.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CINCYFAN at 9:59 AM 7-22-2006</i>
 

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I'm dropping it off tomorrow night and they said they can get to it on Wednesday. That leaves my stable with one car. Wife's Cayenne is in Chicago b/c she flew to Belgium yesterday. She's going to be in Ghent for a while and is going to be very close to the volvo factory.<p>I'll report on the repair job when it's done. I think it's a worthwhile investment in this car.
 

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I have an 850 in for what I thought was going to be an evap replacement and lo and behold, they actually found THREE leaks. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Two on the condenser fittings and one somewhere else.<br>I told them to run it for an hour or so each day for a few days as I wasn't in a rush to pick it up.<br>I went over this morning, started it up, VERY COLD A/C, no clicking, which means it's completely holding charge. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">. If it dropped the charge even a little bit, I would have heard that clicking of the compressor coming on and going off.<br>So, I'm going to back off my original statement which said "<B>always the evap". </B>I guess they (Volvos) do get leaks in other places at times as other cars do and with a good mechanic diagnosing the problem you can<I> possibly </I>save $1000.<br>(Sometimes, most of the time though it will still be the evap).<br>It's still going to cost me 2-$300, better than $1500
 

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That's encouraging. So, possibly, with this other mechanic, they may diagnose the problem differently. I know they did find leaks last year (at a different, non-dealer mechanic) and were able to stop the leak and it lasted until now. I'm not holding my breathe and am fully expecting this 2nd mechanic to confirm the diagnosis of the dealer, but if not...Hey...party with the extra $$$.
 

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Re: Car at dealer today...a/c work and alignment and hose (soledoc)

Just got my 98 V70 back from dealer for same problem and paid about $1500 to replace evap. They also did a bunch of other stuff to the total of about $ 3600!!! Car still not quite right. Heading back to dealer for more fun on Monday.
 

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Re: Car at dealer today...a/c work and alignment and hose (bac_fan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bac_fan</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just got my 98 V70 back from dealer for same problem and paid about $1500 to replace evap. .</TD></TR></TABLE><p>So is the a/c cold?sorry to hear about a $3600 bill and the car's still not right. ouch!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VERY COLD A/C, no clicking, which means it's completely holding charge. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">. If it dropped the charge even a little bit, I would have heard that clicking of the compressor coming on and going off.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you describing a system with climate control in the Auto mode? I ask because I always run my CC in the auto position with the AC on (even in winter), and I always hear a click when the system is cycling. It has been this way for two years and the AC is still blowing cold. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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No, in manual mode<br>I never use auto except once or twice in the winter to lube and run the system and for defrosting.<br>I'm referring to the rapid clicks (every two seconds or so) when the charge is low or out of freon
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>soledoc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>So is the a/c cold?sorry to hear about a $3600 bill and the car's still not right. ouch!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The a/c was cold after picking up the car for the first time. But yesterday, the wife called and said the blower motor wasn't working. Brought the car to the dealer immediately and they found a code for a faulty fan relay. They replaced it ($ 195) and when I picked up the car, the fan speed was all over the place. It would drop to nothing when driving and when brake pedal was depressed, fan would jump to high speed. Brought it back to dealer and they no one could figure out the problem. Now, fan doesn't work at all.<p>By the way, the other work to add to the $ 3600 bill was:<p>A/C evap<br>master cylinder<br>tune-up<br>egr valve and related hoses<br>timing belt<br>alignment<br>rear wiper washer motor<br>four tires
 

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Re: Car at dealer today...a/c work and alignment and hose (bac_fan)

Dropped the car off at the european car shop. They said they could get to it on Wednesday. So hopefully I'll have it back by Friday. So now the S60R has the whole garage...no Cayenne and no wagon. Nice. And I have the whole house to myself (not counting the vizsla) all week until next Sunday when the wife and kid return.
 

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Re: Car at dealer today...a/c work and alignment and hose (soledoc)

The shop called me today and said the car is ready. $1123 total for the a/c evaporator work. He said he worked on it most of the day. He noted a few other things...which I was anxious to hear. One was the driver's side power seat switch didn't go forward or backward. That I knew and actually if I push it in hard toward the seat and then push it forward and back it works. I'm waiting on that to fix it. No big deal. <br>Then he said there was some water/condensation on the front axle. Something like that. I'll question him more tomorrow. He said it wasn't an obvious leak but I should keep an eye on that. Any idea what that might be? I did just have the sway bars and an end link installed and an alignment done. <br> I also told him about the emergency brake not working and I'm not worried about that b/c it's an automatic. He said the same thing. <br> He also said my car looked very nice and was in excellent condition otherwise. Nice to hear from an independent european car mechanic.
 

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Re: Car at dealer today...a/c work and alignment and hose (soledoc)

Just as an aside...I added up all the repairs I've done to this car since I bought it 18 months ago (for $10,400) and it came out to be $4600 including this a/c evap work. I think it's worth it. Hopefully all the big stuff has been done to it now. It has 107,000 miles on it and has 93,200 when I bought it. I do want to keep it a few more years...until JRL comes along with an awesome deal on a 2000 laser blue V70R...but I really do like my saffron wagon. A kid at auto zone the other day said it was a "shaggin' wagon".
 

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If it makes you fell any better that car I found the leaks and thought I fixed the A/C, WRONG!<br>Needs an evaporator, lasted for 4 days <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Yea...I guess it does. Sounds like that's quite a common problem on those vintage volvos.
 
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