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08 V8 S80 about 27K. <p>Took it on it a pretty long trip with the family last week. Logged about 1500 miles. We played musical chairs throughout the trip (with 2 kids, there is always a fight for who gets to "ride shotgun") so dad ended up in the back seat a couple of times. Either I have a bad wheel bearing(s) or the tires on this car make a lot of road noise. Really noticable when in the back seat. It has the Zubra wheels (18" I think) and Pirelli P6 4 seasons (I think I got that right). Very noisy. These sound like the winter snow tires my dad put on his Plymouth back in the 70's - they are that bad. Anyone experience this with this tires? Tons of tread on the tires. They aren't worn too bad or unevenly.<p>As long as I am complaining, the other thing I noticed is that even in comfort mode, when you hit a bump - even a minor pothole - it doesn't just hit the hole it crashes into the hole. I know these are low profile tires but man I found myself dodging every little thing. <p>I'm hoping it's just the tires - if it is, anyone had any luck with a different tire with the Zubras? <p>The car is driven by my wife 95% of the time so a super high performance tire is overkill.<p>
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (mumpsdba)

Road noise = Pirelli's and probably not your bearings. All season tread is more aggressive and has more road noise over summer tires<p>Bottoming out on bumps = thank 4C for that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I have Pilot Sport AS2's, and I love them. Slightly more road noise, but great handling and dry/wet performance. It rained today, and I tried to break the AS2's loose, and they wouldn't budge. Ran through some huge puddles and had no side skidding or the such. Great tires, but pricey. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (vivek9856)

Are you saying that the Pilot's have slightly more road noise than the Pirelli's? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>4C even in comfort mode is rough? I was really hoping it was the tires. I have Pirelli's (P6's I think) on my S70 and I can't wait to replace them b/c you feel everything with them - very rough ride.<p>I'll poke around on TireRack and see what's going to fit her needs. She just drives it - she really doesn't care about the performance that much (although when merging onto the highway a couple of times last week she had to goose it a bit and I saw a smile and heard a "holy ..." <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (mumpsdba)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you saying that the Pilot's have slightly more road noise than the Pirelli's? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, I had Pirelli PZero Rossos on my car - not the All Seasons. So that's why the Pilot's were a bit more noisy then the Pirelli's. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>4C even in comfort mode is rough? I was really hoping it was the tires. I have Pirelli's (P6's I think) on my S70 and I can't wait to replace them b/c you feel everything with them - very rough ride. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, when cruising, the ride is very smooth in Comfort mode. It perfectly absorbs the shock of small rocks and dimples in the road and such. But when you hit a pothole, the suspension almost bottom's out and goes WHAM - even in comfort mode. I drive in advanced mostly, so you can imagine what that's like. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (vivek9856)

I really appreciate your responses (meant to say that in the last post). <p>I'm going to research tires to meet her needs. We like an all season - SE PA gets some snow (nothing like we were used to in central MA tho'). <p>Maybe I can minimize the "crashing" into potholes (I hate saying potholes b/c they really weren't potholes - closer to frost heaves than potholes) with a tire that doesn't have such a low profile.<p>Thanks again - Steve.
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (mumpsdba)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really appreciate your responses (meant to say that in the last post). </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Who knew bored teenagers could be useful? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> You're welcome. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I'm going to research tires to meet her needs. We like an all season - SE PA gets some snow (nothing like we were used to in central MA tho'). </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, the PS2's are the first tire's I have ever bought in my life (haha), and I would highly recommend them to you. They have I believe a 60K mile tread warranty, are very smooth riding tires, but they do have a bit of road noise when the road is dry. I absolutely love their performance in inclement weather - you wouldn't believe the difference between the Rosso summer tires and the PS2's in simple wet weather! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I have a 3.2, and because of previous tire issues, I only replaced two tires, so I have the PS2's on the front and Rosso's on the rear. Today, I took a 120 degree turn in the wet going about 25 mph, and the front stuck to the road like glue and didn't budge! Meanwhile, my rear swung out from under me and almost slid into a curb! :/ But during the entire journey, DSTC didn't kick in once! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>So if you aren't opposed to spending a bit more on tires than normal (be advised - these are pricey at around 300 a pop for the 97Y rating in 245 40R 18), I would recommend that you get the PS2's. If not, wait for some of the older guys on the forum who have had some experience with other tires to chip in before you go out and try new rubber. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Maybe I can minimize the "crashing" into potholes (I hate saying potholes b/c they really weren't potholes - closer to frost heaves than potholes) with a tire that doesn't have such a low profile.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think the low profile tires add to the look of the car. At least for me, the bumps and potholes aren't terrible exactly - uncomfortable? yes. Impossible to deal with? No. I've just learned to accept the occasional WHAM's as a part of the Volvo experience. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (mumpsdba)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mumpsdba</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">08 V8 S80 about 27K. <p>Took it on it a pretty long trip with the family last week. Logged about 1500 miles. We played musical chairs throughout the trip (with 2 kids, there is always a fight for who gets to "ride shotgun") so dad ended up in the back seat a couple of times. Either I have a bad wheel bearing(s) or the tires on this car make a lot of road noise. Really noticable when in the back seat. It has the Zubra wheels (18" I think) and Pirelli P6 4 seasons (I think I got that right). Very noisy. These sound like the winter snow tires my dad put on his Plymouth back in the 70's - they are that bad. Anyone experience this with this tires? Tons of tread on the tires. They aren't worn too bad or unevenly.<p>As long as I am complaining, the other thing I noticed is that even in comfort mode, when you hit a bump - even a minor pothole - it doesn't just hit the hole it crashes into the hole. I know these are low profile tires but man I found myself dodging every little thing. <p>I'm hoping it's just the tires - if it is, anyone had any luck with a different tire with the Zubras? <p>The car is driven by my wife 95% of the time so a super high performance tire is overkill.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, these Pirellis are very noisy. My 3 yo says: "the road is very loud". You can get any number of tires that will be less "loud" than the P6's. In general, except for very high performance applications, Pirellis are not great tires. You can do a lot better in every respect, for less money.<p>As for the absorption of the road. Welcome to the world of low profile tires. No matter what brand of tire you use, there is very little tire between the road and the wheel. If you hit something of any magnitude, you are going to feel it big time no matter what setting your 4C is in. The trade off is cool looking low profile tires, or nice ride. I love having 4C, but I wish I had 17" tires for all kinds of reasons (comfort, cost, road hazards, etc.)
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (Freeworld)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Freeworld</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I wish I had 17" tires for all kinds of reasons (comfort, cost, road hazards, etc.)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well that's because you are a mature adult who values practicality over looks. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Personally, I'd bust my butt on Advanced mode around town to ride on some nice 19's. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (vivek9856)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vivek9856</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well that's because you are a mature adult who values practicality over looks. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Personally, I'd bust my butt on Advanced mode around town to ride on some nice 19's. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Until you started having to pay to replace them, and the wheels you crack.
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (Freeworld)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Freeworld</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Until you started having to pay to replace them, and the wheels you crack.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Again - you're an adult. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>My tire blows - call up dad and he pulls the card out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><p>If I had to pay for my own stuff, I'd probably stick with 18"s
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (vivek9856)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>vivek9856</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>If I had to pay for my own stuff, I'd probably stick with 18"s</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Unless maybe you had to choose between that and .... food?
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (mumpsdba)

I have Pirellis on my S80 and they seem to have a little road noise, and do hit harder than say a Crown Vic, Dodge Charger or a Camry. I think some of it is the low profile of the wheel/tire combination - fewer inches of tire between the street and the rim to absorb bumps. <p>When my Pirellis wear, I might look for some tires that are a subtle 1/2 or 1 inch higher and have less road noise... I don't know what brand those will be.<p>On road noise, I have been searching the web on road noise, interior squeaks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> and sound-proofing. There are a few companies that make or sell rolls of butyl rubber, fabrics, foams and undercoatings to reduce road noise and deaden sound. I wonder if some of those may help the road noise? I'm thinking about having my S-80 floors, kick-panels and other places treated for noise and sound proofing... <p>
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (SINCGARS)

I don't think the sound levels in the S80 call for such drastic measures. My car seems to drive perfectly fine (road noise wise)
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (vivek9856)

I don't know how you all think that the P6s are noisy but I beg to differ. My current company car has them and they are super quiet (even though I have only logged 620 miles on it) even though they are 18"s. Nonetheless, my own car (MY01 V70 T5) came with 17" Pirelli P6s and I got 42,000 miles out of them. Super quiet tire, great in the rain (they switched and became very bad right at 41K as they wore out and the two center channels could not channel the water out, thus resulting in hydroplaning even at medium speeds; until then, travelling at 70 mph in the rain posed no problems), able enough in light snow (up to 3").<p>For above average tires (not superperforming and at a good price), I think the P6 are more than fine.
 

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Re: Can I blame this on the Pirelli's? (SINCGARS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SINCGARS</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There are a few companies that make or sell rolls of butyl rubber, fabrics, foams and undercoatings to reduce road noise and deaden sound. I wonder if some of those may help the road noise? I'm thinking about having my S-80 floors, kick-panels and other places treated for noise and sound proofing... <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Beware. Lots of these preparations are snake oil.
 
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