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I went to an autocross today in Colorado Springs and got bitten by the autocross bug after getting rides in 2 different Subaru STI's, one almost stock, and one heavily modded. BTW, I autocrossed (TR7) and raced in the Mid-Atlantic region mid 80's to mid 90's.<p>Wow, I was very impressed with the STI's performance, and it gave me pause to think about running my V70 R, which seems somewhat barge-like after experiencing STI performance. To clarify, my modded R I am sure could give the STI a run for its money on a road course, but the Subaru appears ideally suited to the confines of an autocross course. Even with IPD's most robust sway bars, lowered springs and in Advanced mode, my R doesn't seem as stiffly sprung as the STI's I rode in. <p>Turn in also seemed better in the STI. Ok, enough of the glowing STI report. I was surprised at how low-dollar the interior appeared, which was especially noticeable when I shut the door and a the sound resembled a noisemaker rather than the comforting "thunk" of my R. <p>So, am I barmy for wanting to autocross my V70 R? Without further mods, it is hard to imagine that I would be competitive, but perhaps I am being overly pessimistic?
 

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Hey cloaked, yes I figured that which puts me with cars that can be heavily modded and extremely quick.
 

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Re: Calling R autocrossers (Britspeed)

I tried autocrossing my '04 V70R last year. It is such a heavy car; the mass causes the R to push through corners, and the tubro always seemed to be off boost. It was a disappointing experience for me to autocross the R. Fun, but disappointing.<p>I've moved on to a classic Saab 900 for my autocross vehicle. I "save" the R for track days... and of course family wagon duties.<br>
 

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Re: Calling R autocrossers (kr900)

Auto-Xing a "R" wagon is like buying a F1 race car and only taking it to the grocery store. The wagon will be disapointing and BARGE like. And never going over 30 mph in a F1 on the way to the gracery store will only stir up disapointment in both cases. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Calling R autocrossers (Mash)

One could argue that competing in anything is better than sitting there and only watching........
 

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Re: Calling R autocrossers (Britspeed)

I ran my wagon the first season I had it. It can be a bit cumbersome in the real tight sections but it can also be super fun. I would do it. Your mods put you in a crazy category, maybe SM so you will get stomped but autocrossing is really only about lowering your own time throughout the day and having the most fun you can. Pump your front tires up to 50, get on the gas at the entry of the turn, control your mid turn speed with left foot brake and smile on exit. <br>After all, you have a wagon, you put any car you beat to shame.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Calling R autocrossers (Mash)

I wouldn't be disappointed taking an F1 car to the grocery store. 30mph? Are you freaking crazy? Its all how you get there. I'd take the long way from my home in CT through RI, MA, NH, VT, over into NY and back down into CT for a bag of chips. And, I'd do it in record time. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>"Sorry honey, I hit some traffic on the way to the store."<p>-Eric
 

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Re: Calling R autocrossers (Britspeed)

I tried an autocross event this spring here in Ct. I found the S60R to be too heavy. The course was tight and I never got out of 1st gear. I placed well compared to other cars in my category but the biggest problem I found was with even 55psi in the front tires, the tires were scuffed halfway down on the side walls. I wore off the outside edge of the two front tires in that one event. Again it was a tight course but I felt the R was just too heavy. The next heaviest car was a 350Z. 90% of the cars at the event were either Maitas or WRX's.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. I will think some more about it. I would probably have to get the stickiest tires I could find, then buy another set of wheels. So right off the bat I have spent several grand, so not sure.<p>Unfortunately most of the road circuits in Co are gone due to development so unless I travel a few states away, autocross is the only competition around.<p>BTW, just got back from the Denver Champcar race. It was a nice event and well put in regard to access to the paddock and viewing areas. I saw Katherine Legge and wished her good luck. Apparently she needs more than luck, probably a better team.
 

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I have autocrossed my R a few times. In scca rules unfortunately even in stock form the R is up against cars such as the STi and EVO and mine now with all the mods puts me in a much higher class.... a class that my driving skills are not up to par with.<p>I have gotten much better at my driving capabilities with HPDE events and such but the R is a heavy tank on the autocross course.<p>That being said, I have more fun each time I go out and try more to compete with myself and when the guys pick on me for having a volvo I smile and laugh[on the inside] that after a long day they are going to get beat to death on the drive home while I am relaxing listening to 5.1 dvd audio music on the way home with the seat warmers on to relax my back.
 

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SCCA rules classed mine in D stock - vs. plain WRX's and integra type R's. The car I normally autocross was down for repairs so I took the R out. I was surprised at how well it did. <p>The understeer is really bad but it is predictable. I was able to turn consistent runs with it and at the end I found I picked up 1/2 second by turning the traction control back on in reduced mode (it helped control the understeer). I'm an OK driver and I was keeping up with WRX's with better tires. The motor makes up for a lot of other shortcomings. I bet with some stickier tires and a bigger front sway (all available to stay in stock class) it would be a pretty fun and original car to compete for season points. <p>Mods are actually bad if you want competition. My P1800 is in Street Modified class and it kind of sucks some times. I've got pretty good power from a blower and sticky 205's but I'm competing against heavily modded STI's with giant gumball slicks or stripped civics. Even when I do relatively well the PAX scoring system penalizes me back into the stone age.
 

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Britspeed said:
I would probably have to get the stickiest tires I could find, then buy another set of wheels. So right off the bat I have spent several grand, so not sure.
<p>Take a look over in the classifieds under tires and wheels. I'm selling a set of 17" pegs with track tires for Jim Lill. Going rather cheap for what your getting. You can purchase them for a lot less the a grand. They are perfect for the track. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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