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C.W.P. or Conscious Winglet Paranoia may affect many people who have complete body kits on their cars.. I am now a sufferer. I've had my winglets on my car for about an hour or so now, and once I got home, I pulled out a ruler to see just how much ground clearance I have in the front...5.75". Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the look of the car...but I decided to take the "safe" way home (less pot holes) and forgot about a speed bump. Lets just say, I reversed in someone's driveway and took a more dangerous path home.

Pics of all the recent changes tomorrow, after I wash


Anyone else suffer from C.W.P.?
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (m3nt0s)

5.75" is nice and high...Try it with lowered...you'll need Valium
 

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I wish I suffered from this condition. But I have no winglets, nor any part of the body kit to worrie about.
Sore subject, I'm off work in 30 min and straight to the bar I go to drink away my lack of C.W.P..

 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (mad matt)

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I wish I suffered from this condition. But I have no winglets, nor any part of the body kit to worrie about.
Sore subject, I'm off work in 30 min and straight to the bar I go to drink away my lack of C.W.P..



I see the S40 in your signature with the Evolve kit...I'm curious, what was your clearance like with that? I love the look of that car http://********************/smile/emthup.gif
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (Johnr352)

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5.75" is nice and high...Try it with lowered...you'll need Valium

Well, my math won't take into account rebound, etc. in the suspension, but springs seem to lower anywhere from 0.8" to 1.3", meaning that with winglets, actual front ride height clearance is going to be 4.95" down to 4.45".
 

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Very clever. I do not have C.W.P but I do have a much more common ailment known as C.A.G.F.P (Conscious Angle Gear Failure Paranoia). Every time I goose the throttle around a corner I am anticipating the bang and loss of AWD.
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (m3nt0s)

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Well, my math won't take into account rebound, etc. in the suspension, but springs seem to lower anywhere from 0.8" to 1.3", meaning that with winglets, actual front ride height clearance is going to be 4.95" down to 4.45".

Something like that. Depends on the wheels too. With my 19" rims it's about 4.5" I try to be careful...
 

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I see the S40 in your signature with the Evolve kit...I'm curious, what was your clearance like with that? I love the look of that car http://********************/smile/emthup.gif

Thanks, I had a lot of fun with the S40. I never measured the clearance but I had my fair share of scrapes on the DP and the side sills to tell me that speed bumps and steeper drive ways were out of the question.
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (mad matt)

SOW Syndrome

Stressed Over Winglets
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (GiRaff3)

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SOW Syndrome

Stressed Over Winglets

Correct. If you're going to pretend to want a hot looking car, you're going to have to learn to drive proactively my friends.


Exhibit A: (harks back to 2001!, hi Chris!) My '98 SVT Contour's front splitter was 2" off the ground, I could push tennis balls and coke cans around with that car. Drove it from Montreal to past Detroit, back through Ohio, into NYC and back. This exact setup. Those pics were snapped near Boston on a subsequent road trip. Gotta look ahead and sharpen those reflexes.




 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (-Pascal)

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Correct. If you're going to pretend to want a hot looking car, you're going to have to learn to drive proactively my friends.


Exhibit A: (harks back to 2001!, hi Chris!) My '98 SVT Contour's front splitter was 2" off the ground, I could push tennis balls and coke cans around with that car. Drove it from Montreal to past Detroit, back through Ohio, into NYC and back. This exact setup. Those pics were snapped near Boston on a subsequent road trip. Gotta look ahead and sharpen those reflexes.





That low is not my cup-o-tea. The full R bodykit with lowering springs is about as close to the ground as I want to get.
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (GiRaff3)

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That low is not my cup-o-tea. The full R bodykit with lowering springs is about as close to the ground as I want to get.
If you read my post I'm not saying anyone should lower their cars any more than than whatever they want, or even keep it stock.

Just stop it already with all the winglet drama, the cars are freaking 4x4's by most tuner standards. If people can't park without hitting curbs and such they need to go back to pickup trucks or learn how to drive performance cars. Bone stock M3's and other proper sports cars are way lower...

Just my .02$
 

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One of the nicest 'tours to grace the pagesof CEG! Where near Boston? Back when these first came out I was passing a gravel yard in Ayer MA, looked similar and I was tempted to roll around in my SVT.
I can't remember exactly where that was, it's been too long... it might have been that very same quarry, I've got lots of pictures from that "shoot" that show the location better. Thanks for the comments by the way.
 

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ive got the sport kit with winglets, and i back out of my driveway everyday, i learned my lesson quick not to go out forward. I really want to lower my car, but I dont think that would be good for the winglets.
 

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Pascal, that Contour was sweet!!! http://********************/smile/emthup.gif

2" is way too low for my taste, I'll be honest. My issue is how far the winglets stick out, I'm going to spend some time tomorrow to learn the in's and out's of Winglet Life. It's kind of like Thug Life, but different...
 

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Hi my name is Joe, I suffer from C.W.P. and I thank you for welcoming me to the group.

Just kidding, I have driven lowered cars for awhile and have not had too many problems.

What happens is your eye becomes calibrated to what you can get into and what you can't. Of course having the Wife/Girl friend look at you sideways when you tell her "there is no way I am going in that driveway", is always a treat.

Also I just found out yesterday that the bottom of my passenger side winglet has had contact with the ground (no visible damage though, just a little ruff on the bottom). Driver side is still pristine by the way. I racked my brain trying to figure out where it happened, and ding I figured it out, the dealer visit the other day...
 

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Re: C.W.P. - A Volvo Medical Condition (m3nt0s)

I didn't want to admit it, but leaving the dealership last night, I'd had the winglets installed on my car for the better part of...50 yards...and I scraped immediately going onto the street. It was a quick lesson in "Think before you drive"!
 

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Ehhh come on... stock suspension with winglets is not all that bad - it's quite high actually. Try doing that owith a lowered suspension.

This is what my previous car looked like when I had my winter wheels on..it was about 2.75 or 3 inches off the ground, and I drove it all winter around NYC - you just learn how to avoid the potholes, bumps and other creatures. A low car can also serve as a plow..




 
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