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Buddy here did some back to back runs with stock / versus BSR. <p>Temps warmed up to 50 degrees today, and it made a difference from other day when it was 30 degrees. Also, launches weren't as strong (mentioned he had some bog), but still not bad IMO.<p>Anyways, white/red are stock tune, Green/blue are BSR a few minutes later after PPC magic. <p><IMG SRC="http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7130/bsrvsstock7ac.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Here is G-Techs interpretation of wheel hp... interesting for comparison purposes. <p><IMG SRC="http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9263/bsrvsstockhp9ss.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Averaging the two runs, (remember, he has very similar mods as me).<p><B>0-60 </B><br>Stock tune: 5.48<br>BSR tune: 5.03<p><B>1/4 mile</B><br>Stock tune: 14.12 @ 100.07<br>BSR tune: 13.65 @ 103.52
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tx Turbo Ho</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have the BSR on your car. I notice you don't list it. If so, how does it work with the downpipe?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Buddy has it on his (with a DP), he hasn't had any problems.<br>But he puts Aral 100 in (although I don't know it is really 100RON or just 98RON with a fancy name). Also, it is still colder here.
 

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A word of warning for BSR owners, I did a brake job today, new rotors and went out to bed them. Bedding went fine and I decided to change back to stock program so I connected the PPC and changed back to stock program. You know how you get that "brake failure" warning after loading or unloading the BSR program. Well I also noticed an ABS failure warning light.<br> Anyway I did a couple of heavy brake tests and guess what, no ABS. One or two of the wheels locked up way before I came to a stop and I skidded for about 20'. This happened twice. I stopped the car, shut it down and restarted and the warning lights were gone. Tried again and ABS is working now.<p> This is just a warning when loading or unloading the BSR program. Don't ignore the warning lights...and they will go away once you shut down and restart. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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you can check the web of bsr, they comment about ABS warning, is just a light with no results, it should go after a few starts.
 

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I understand that it will go away after a restart, my point is, when you have the warning, heed it, the ABS does not function when the warning light is showing.
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech ("R" Kelly)

Nice work. I do want to mention that the horsepower graph is not GTech's interpretation of wheel HP but of 'Net' HP. Net HP accounts for the car aerodynamic drag for example. A technicality of course and the useful thing is the before and after comparison that you did much more so than differences between wheel and net power.
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech (rollie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rollie</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice work. I do want to mention that the horsepower graph is not GTech's interpretation of wheel HP but of 'Net' HP. Net HP accounts for the car aerodynamic drag for example.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well thank you, I did not realize that. <p>That also supports my theory of why Dougs car (Evolve Power Package) had more 'net' horsepower in 4th gear than my friend who had more in 1-3 gear with BSR.<p>Doug has sport package and is lowered over an inch with Eibach springs. By the time 4th rolls around you are doing 80 mph and aerodynamics really come into play.
 

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hey kelly do you have some ecu upgrade?? i saw that you have DP.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>volvos60t5x</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey kelly do you have some ecu upgrade?? i saw that you have DP.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would never endanger my powertrain warranty with an ECU mod.
 

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o i see.
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buddy here did some back to back runs with stock / versus BSR. <br><B>0-60 </B><br>Stock tune: 5.48<br>BSR tune: 5.03<p><B>1/4 mile</B><br>Stock tune: 14.12 @ 100.07<br>BSR tune: 13.65 @ 103.52</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For clarity purposed, when you say "stock / versus BSR", you are refering to ECU only being stock, since we know your friend has similar mods as you do (ie. 3" DP, CAI and cat-back).<p>Regardless, I don't think anyone can dispute that an ECU mod is THE best bang for the buck. Shaving half a second off for $1000 and virtually ZERO labour is one GOOD deal! ...and you can reverse it just as quickly, still a shame it's traceable <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> if not traceable I'd be all over that mod!<p>LTA<p><br>
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech (LTA)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For clarity purposed, when you say "stock / versus BSR", you are refering to ECU only being stock, since we know your friend has similar mods as you do (ie. 3" DP, CAI and cat-back).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For clarity purposes, please read the thread title, you misquoted it. <p>Title is "BSR vs. Stock <B>ECU tune</B>" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LTA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Shaving half a second off for $1000 and virtually ZERO labour is one GOOD deal! ...and you can reverse it just as quickly, still a shame it's traceable </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Umm, BSR PPC is only $827 delivered to US address from <A HREF="http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com</A> . <p>And it erases all error codes. What shows up is anomalies. Whose to say what "anomalies" are. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I just love it when you try to correct me on the board, so far 0-2 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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i think bsr is one of the best tuners out there, i can say my stage III is amazing. I hope they offer the stage III on R( ssss top secret but they will) hehehe.
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech ("R" Kelly)

<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>For clarity purposes, please read the thread title, you misquoted it. <p>Title is "BSR vs. Stock <B>ECU tune</B>" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sheesh, yeah sure I missed that one! I got so tied up in all the cool graphs and exciting sub-14sec 1/4 mile stuff that I missed the forrest for the trees! But it sure is clear now, thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Umm, BSR PPC is only $827 delivered to US address from <A HREF="http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com</A> . </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Ah yes, a US address but I live in the great white north: CANADA!<br>So here's why it's $1000:<br>$827USD X 1.15 (exhange to CDN dollars) = $951.01CDN<br>$951.01CDN X .06 (CDN duty tax) = $57.06CDN<br>$951.01CDN X .15 (CDN GST and PST) = $142.66CDN<br>For a grand total to a Canadian address of $1150.77CDN<br>Plase note:<br>- this doesn't take account for shipping and customs brokerage charges<br>- I don't know for a fact that the 6% duty tax applies.<br>- Even if I asked my dad to bring it back fom me from his trip Germany this summer (yes, a soccer fan) it's still $951CDN which I call a thousand bucks!<br>In summary BSR/PPC costs me a thousand bucks.<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>And it erases all error codes. What shows up is anomalies. Whose to say what "anomalies" are. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Whatever it shows, Volvo can see that something was messed with and that's why you and I would never flash the ECU.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I just love it when you try to correct me on the board, so far 0-2 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>In this case the ball was on the goal line but never went in the net because we have different ways to measure it.<br>As for the other goal (was it "backfire"?), I might let you have that one but c'mon man even that's a stretch.<p>Bottom line and my main point is that the BSR/PPC ECU tune is the best bang fo the buck, unless you want to make me feel good and tell me my EST cat-back, BMC filter and Ferrita DP is more cost-effective? (but that's a rhetorical isnt' it)<p>Cheers mate <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by LTA at 4:22 PM 3-20-2006</i>
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech (LTA)

Here we go again.........Some people never learn......move on kelly, there is a hard head in here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech (MASH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MASH</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Here we go again.........Some people never learn......move on kelly, there is a hard head in here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>MASH, really? Are you serious? We're going down this path here too, I biting my tounge man <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> How did you find out one of my parents is from Calabria (Italy)?? Calabrese people are known for their hard heads. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> Hard head or not, I have a good sense of humor and take no offence to you calling me a hard head.<p>But MASH with all due respect I think YOU should move on since Kelly seems to do just fine 'fighting' his own battles.<p>ps. the score is still nil-nil. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>LTA<br>
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech (LTA)

Obviously you are looking to stir things up in here. I bet you realy own a BMW. Your approach is almost standard in those forums. Maybe you should move on.
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech ("R" Kelly)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"R" Kelly</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>0-60 </B><br>Stock tune: 5.48<p><B>1/4 mile</B><br>Stock tune: 14.12 @ 100.07</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wish I was able to achieve this in Miami weather... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Oh, and with my driving skills. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: BSR vs Stock ECU tune, results on G-Tech (Razor1973)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Razor1973</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Wish I was able to achieve this in Miami weather... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"><br>Oh, and with my driving skills. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>While it was a stock tune, car did have CAI, BMC, 3" DP, Jetex/Burns Exhaust running 98RON in 50 degree weather.<p>And I'm moving to Florida in a couple of months, seriously considering a FMIC before I go...
 
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