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Has anyone installed the European version of the LH mirror glass?<br>I did so today for both an XC90 and S80 and, from first glance (no pun intended), the blind spot is virtually gone. Beats the stick on convex mirror for both looks and visual stability. Anyone else care to add to this post? Tks...
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ggleavitt</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone installed the European version of the LH mirror glass?<br>I did so today for both an XC90 and S80 and, from first glance (no pun intended), the blind spot is virtually gone. Beats the stick on convex mirror for both looks and visual stability. Anyone else care to add to this post? Tks...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Where did you get it from and for how much? How difficult was the installation?
 

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Borton Volvo. For the record, this is a replacement mirror glass ONLY.<br>I did a Google on the subject "euro lh mirror volvo xc 90" and they appeared. Am hesitant to endorse any dealer but their site is:<br><A HREF="http://www.borton.com/parts.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.borton.com/parts.html</A><br>Installation instructions are noted on their web site. Removal and replacement is fairly simple, just follow the instructions and a use small amount of constant pressure to get the mirrors to snap into place on the re-install. May not be worth $85-95 each plus shipping ($15 in our case,) we bought 1 LH for S80 and 1 LH for XC90 which brought the total to $194 or so for everyone but we are quite pleased with the result. My 3 cents (cost of living and gas included)...
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

I have an 'Autobahn mirror' you can find it on Google, here's a site:<p><A HREF="http://store.yahoo.com/classic-motoring/autobahnmirror.html" TARGET="_blank">http://store.yahoo.com/classic....html</A><p>They are about $20 and work very well, have them in all my cars!
 

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I am not sure if this is the same mirror? but I have the Executive mirrors for the XC90, they basically are regular mirrors until you get to the edge and then they curve to eliminate the blind spots. I ordered them less than a week after purchasing the car, I like them, they took a little getting used to, but after you get used to them, they are fantastic. My wife (primarly driver) absolutely loves them, $75 each at the time and worth every penny.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

I have the European mirrors installed on both sides.<br>They greatly reduce the blind spots.<br>Ordered them from Borton, dealer installed them for me.<p>I had previous experience with this kind of mirror, since my S40 had one on the driver side.<p>Still left to solve is the blind spot at the rear.<br>I have a plastic convex lens, not installed yet, that adheres to the<br>back window.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (sliberman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sliberman</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Still left to solve is the blind spot at the rear.<br>I have a plastic convex lens, not installed yet, that adheres to the<br>back window.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Trade it in on an 07 - has a camera option with screen in the dash. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Tom.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

Also purchased from Borton, and HIGHLY recommended part for all XC90 drivers. The outside 1.5" or so is the extra vision portion, and it does eliminate a very large portion of the "adjoining lane" blind spot.<p>Be aware that there was an initial part that did not have the "water repellant" finish on the glass. Not sure if that makes any difference, but the new ones Borton sold to us do have that and at similar price to that posted here.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (tmtalpey)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tmtalpey</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trade it in on an 07 - has a camera option with screen in the dash. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Tom.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, the possibility of an AUX input for the audio system may be the deciding factor... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Blind Spot (sliberman)

I installed the wide angle ones from Borton on the 2003 and took them off when I turned the vehicle in.<br>I thought I would buy the water repellent ones for the 06 BUT I have not noticed any real "repellent" characteristics of the new mirrors and am inclined to reuse the ones I have.<br>14k on the 06 now with more than a few showers experienced.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tmtalpey</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trade it in on an 07 - has a camera option with screen in the dash.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is the reverse camera. In Europe you can order the BLIS-system (blind spot information system). <p><IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/gallery/generated//FWD%20and%20AWD/V70%20Mk%20II/2005%20Update/BLIS%20System/003__scaled_600.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/gallery/generated//FWD%20and%20AWD/V70%20Mk%20II/2005%20Update/BLIS%20System/007__scaled_600.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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Re: Blind Spot (T5_awd)

One 'possible' big advantage of mirrors (especially these that are being talked about here) over BLIS at least I think is that since BLIS just uses a picture how does it detect a faster car that is a safe distance back and in that duration from when you look at the BLIS light to actually changing lanes, that car is now in your way? At least looking at the mirror and over your shoulder, you'll more likely make a mental note more quickly of whether or not it's safe to change lanes. It seems BLIS can only decide about that split second. But you'll most likely be actually be changing lanes a few seconds AFTER BLIS has told you it's safe. A lot can happen in those few seconds.<p>Or am I misunderstanding BLIS?<p>If these mirrors are that great and there's a safety aspect to them, why aren't they standard?
 

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Re: Blind Spot (pattyweb)

The way I drive, I am usually never surprised by blind spot drivers anyway. I make mental notes of positions of cars on the road behind me. It's a game to me. I predict what they are going to do and watch their movements. That way I rarely ever get surprised when I change lanes. I already know where the cars are. That is one thing this system cannot do...predict and judge. If I see a drunk driver, I won't get over, for fear he might speed up suddenly. Neat idea for sure. It will be useful for drivers who do not pay attention like I do. And most Volvo drivers are older with slower response times and more stress.<p>And I love my side mirrors. If they take those away, I will add them back on. A camera or light should never take the place of a mirror. Those small rectangular fish-eye mirrors are a great thing to buy. I will get one for the Volvo. Driving an LS Lexus was a much easier task with the blind-spot mirror. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pattyweb</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One 'possible' big advantage of mirrors (especially these that are being talked about here) over BLIS at least I think is that since BLIS just uses a picture how does it detect a faster car that is a safe distance back and in that duration from when you look at the BLIS light to actually changing lanes, that car is now in your way? At least looking at the mirror and over your shoulder, you'll more likely make a mental note more quickly of whether or not it's safe to change lanes. It seems BLIS can only decide about that split second. But you'll most likely be actually be changing lanes a few seconds AFTER BLIS has told you it's safe. A lot can happen in those few seconds.<p>Or am I misunderstanding BLIS?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>BLIS works GREAT! The 'problem' above is not a problem for BLIS.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

Just to confirm, with this replacement mirror all original functionality is still retained, correct? None of the features such as water resistance, heated mirrors, automatic folding of mirrors, mirror memory etc. is lost, right? I am guessing so but just wanted a confirmation by someone who has these.<p>Thanks!
 

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Re: Blind Spot (AccuView)

It's just the mirror glass itself so yes, all other functionality is the same to what is currently installed with the exception of the view. Treated and heated glass included, at least for XC90...<p><br><i>Modified by ggleavitt at 10:10 PM 6-4-2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by ggleavitt at 10:29 PM 6-4-2006</i>
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

Hmm, why isn't that mirror glass standard on US-spec? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I have it on both sides. Standard, from the factory.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (T5_awd)

<p>I never noticed the blind spot, I always turn my head and look to the side as I do with every vehicle I have ever had. Maybe they all had blind spots, but I was tought to always look.
 

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Interesting question T5_awd, I assume you are from Europe? I have a German girlfriend who noted that this was always standard on the cars she had driven. Maybe someone in the Swedespeed community can shed light on this as I believe it has been the European "standard" for some time. In regards to the comments on BLIS: Sure this is a nice system to have and, in a package for the overall purchase of a new car, I would be thinking it might be a nice add-on (especially for the rear-view camera). But for those of us with pre-2007 vehicles, I like the European mirror and besides, the price is far less than BLIS. Further to some of the posts regarding looking over one's shoulder before changing left lanes, I agree completely. Even with the new mirrors, I have been "programmed" over the years to check first then change. So this mirror is not a cure-all, not in any way. Any sane person will still check.<br>I can only say that, to me, it makes a significant difference in judging where cars are to the left when driving and helps, especially in traffic.
 

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Re: Blind Spot (ggleavitt)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ggleavitt</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting question T5_awd, I assume you are from Europe?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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