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If you were buying/ordering your XC90 today, please vote on how important the Bi-Xenon lights would be (cost $500 + Climate pakage).<p>Yannis
BiXenon headlamps
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Re: BiXenon headlamps (GrecianVolvo)
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Re: BiXenon headlamps (kelly54)
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>What are the advantages of these lamps?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Check out this article I did a while back:<p><A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/features/tech/bixenon/index.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.swedespeed.com/features/tech/bixenon/index.shtml</a><p>-Drew
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>What are the advantages of these lamps?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Check out this article I did a while back:<p><A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/features/tech/bixenon/index.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.swedespeed.com/features/tech/bixenon/index.shtml</a><p>-Drew
Re: BiXenon headlamps ([email protected])
Great article..thanks..is the HID less intrusive on the opposing driver than the standard halogens. I ask because I have read many complaints of drivers who do not have the halogens...
Great article..thanks..is the HID less intrusive on the opposing driver than the standard halogens. I ask because I have read many complaints of drivers who do not have the halogens...
Re: BiXenon headlamps ([email protected])
Nice article. Helped answer many of my questions! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
Nice article. Helped answer many of my questions! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
Re: BiXenon headlamps (kelly54)
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Great article..thanks..is the HID less intrusive on the opposing driver than the standard halogens<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Thanks for the compliments. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>It really depends on the person, whether or not they are bothered by HID, but most of the time people say that HID is more intrusive than halogens to opposing drivers. Most people notice it because it is "different". <p>For example, if they see nine cars drive by with yellowish halogens and the tenth car has bright bluish HID's, what are they going to notice more? A lot of Japanese models do not have an auto-level system, which can cause excessive glare, but Volvo does have an auto-level system.<p><BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I ask because I have read many complaints of drivers who do not have the halogens...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>I am not sure what you mean by this? You mean "complaints from people who have halogens against people who have HID?"<p>-Drew
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Great article..thanks..is the HID less intrusive on the opposing driver than the standard halogens<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Thanks for the compliments. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>It really depends on the person, whether or not they are bothered by HID, but most of the time people say that HID is more intrusive than halogens to opposing drivers. Most people notice it because it is "different". <p>For example, if they see nine cars drive by with yellowish halogens and the tenth car has bright bluish HID's, what are they going to notice more? A lot of Japanese models do not have an auto-level system, which can cause excessive glare, but Volvo does have an auto-level system.<p><BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I ask because I have read many complaints of drivers who do not have the halogens...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>I am not sure what you mean by this? You mean "complaints from people who have halogens against people who have HID?"<p>-Drew
Re: BiXenon headlamps ([email protected])
No..sorry, what I meant was complaints of people passing oncoming cars that have the halogens. In other words, will they have the same complaints with HID? I believe that you answered my question. Thanks, Drew.
No..sorry, what I meant was complaints of people passing oncoming cars that have the halogens. In other words, will they have the same complaints with HID? I believe that you answered my question. Thanks, Drew.
Re: BiXenon headlamps (kelly54)
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Drew- I value your opinion on this, and I am coming down to decision time..would you get them? Thanks...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>If you have time to wait for them on your order, and if it were up to me, I would get them, no question about it. If you are in a hurry and need an XC90 that might not have them, then that is a different matter. Having them makes the XC90 all the more enjoyable IMHO.<p>-Drew
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Drew- I value your opinion on this, and I am coming down to decision time..would you get them? Thanks...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>If you have time to wait for them on your order, and if it were up to me, I would get them, no question about it. If you are in a hurry and need an XC90 that might not have them, then that is a different matter. Having them makes the XC90 all the more enjoyable IMHO.<p>-Drew
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Re: BiXenon headlamps (gohode)
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Will they be available for retro-fit down the road??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>From Volvo? I doubt it...but you never know!<p>Yannis
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Will they be available for retro-fit down the road??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>From Volvo? I doubt it...but you never know!<p>Yannis
Re: BiXenon headlamps (GrecianVolvo)
I'll buy an after market product and save the $. I find them a distraction as an oncoming driver!<br><A HREF="http://www.eur.lighting.philips.com/int_en/prof/about/press/automotive/photo.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.eur.lighting.philips.com/int_en/prof/about/press/automotive/photo.html</A><p><br>[Modified by webpj, 1:16 PM 1-27-2003]<BR><BR>
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I'll buy an after market product and save the $. I find them a distraction as an oncoming driver!<br><A HREF="http://www.eur.lighting.philips.com/int_en/prof/about/press/automotive/photo.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.eur.lighting.philips.com/int_en/prof/about/press/automotive/photo.html</A><p><br>[Modified by webpj, 1:16 PM 1-27-2003]<BR><BR>
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Re: BiXenon headlamps ([email protected])
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>It really depends on the person, whether or not they are bothered by HID, but most of the time people say that HID is more intrusive than halogens to opposing drivers. Most people notice it because it is "different". <p>For example, if they see nine cars drive by with yellowish halogens and the tenth car has bright bluish HID's, what are they going to notice more? A lot of Japanese models do not have an auto-level system, which can cause excessive glare, but Volvo does have an auto-level system.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>Does the Volvo setup produce that same obnoxious bright blue light? It is very intense and I've had a lot of trouble with them from both on-coming and following cars. Especially in the rain, I've been blinded for several seconds between wiper swipes by the light reflecting off the mist on the windshield. Don't seem to have this problem much with halogens except from tall trucks. The auto-level system may help on straight road sections but that wouldn't work on twisting mountain roads where the beams are moving up-and-down and side-to-side.<p>Another factor is that as I get older it takes longer for my eyes to return to normal night vision after being "shut down" by the intense light. Certainly there are tradeoffs and the safety benefits may outweigh the disbenefits, although I don't see any studies addressing the overall effect of these lights. Also, the HID technology can be expected to improve; perhaps the Volvo lights are measurably better than most of what is out there today?<p>Still, I don't feel very good about them. Seems like another "safety" device that encourages people to drive faster than they should and quickly offsets any benefit.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>It really depends on the person, whether or not they are bothered by HID, but most of the time people say that HID is more intrusive than halogens to opposing drivers. Most people notice it because it is "different". <p>For example, if they see nine cars drive by with yellowish halogens and the tenth car has bright bluish HID's, what are they going to notice more? A lot of Japanese models do not have an auto-level system, which can cause excessive glare, but Volvo does have an auto-level system.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>Does the Volvo setup produce that same obnoxious bright blue light? It is very intense and I've had a lot of trouble with them from both on-coming and following cars. Especially in the rain, I've been blinded for several seconds between wiper swipes by the light reflecting off the mist on the windshield. Don't seem to have this problem much with halogens except from tall trucks. The auto-level system may help on straight road sections but that wouldn't work on twisting mountain roads where the beams are moving up-and-down and side-to-side.<p>Another factor is that as I get older it takes longer for my eyes to return to normal night vision after being "shut down" by the intense light. Certainly there are tradeoffs and the safety benefits may outweigh the disbenefits, although I don't see any studies addressing the overall effect of these lights. Also, the HID technology can be expected to improve; perhaps the Volvo lights are measurably better than most of what is out there today?<p>Still, I don't feel very good about them. Seems like another "safety" device that encourages people to drive faster than they should and quickly offsets any benefit.
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Re: BiXenon headlamps (XC-Ski)
Just to add my two cents. I wanted the Bixenons and couldn't get them but to tell you the truth the standard headlamps on the XC90 do a great job. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> I'll admit to being somewhat nightblind and these work just fine for me. If you have $500 to spend and think that you can't live without them then by all means get them. Just don't do it in the mis-guided belief that the standard ones won't do the job nicely. Would still spring for the Climate package though as that has some nice features. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
Just to add my two cents. I wanted the Bixenons and couldn't get them but to tell you the truth the standard headlamps on the XC90 do a great job. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> I'll admit to being somewhat nightblind and these work just fine for me. If you have $500 to spend and think that you can't live without them then by all means get them. Just don't do it in the mis-guided belief that the standard ones won't do the job nicely. Would still spring for the Climate package though as that has some nice features. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
I had corrective laser eye surgery and have a bit of problem with my nightvision due to the "halo-effect". With the Bi-Xenon headlamps, more of the driving surface is flooded with ambient light so my irises don't have to dilate fully due to the darkness.<p>This is the primary reason why I chose to get this Bi-Xenon system.<p>Thankfully, my nightvision isn't this bad:<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.surgicaleyes.org/images/Nd2_4.jpg" BORDER="0">
Re: BiXenon headlamps (kelly54)
Bi xenon will be better than standard halogen...<br>I have driven cars with xenon and its way better than halogen at night.<br>Also, most vehicles with xenon is luxury cars, bmw.. mercedes... audi...<p>I think this is the first vehicle from volvo that they offer xenon headlight as an option... but you have to get Climate package($595) first.. before you can add xenon ($500) to your XC90.<p>On my XC90 order, I get the climate plus the bi-xenon...<br>I think its worht it...<p>
Bi xenon will be better than standard halogen...<br>I have driven cars with xenon and its way better than halogen at night.<br>Also, most vehicles with xenon is luxury cars, bmw.. mercedes... audi...<p>I think this is the first vehicle from volvo that they offer xenon headlight as an option... but you have to get Climate package($595) first.. before you can add xenon ($500) to your XC90.<p>On my XC90 order, I get the climate plus the bi-xenon...<br>I think its worht it...<p>
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