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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (lax01)

oh oh oh...i know!, i know!..pick me!!!! lol, what model is the car? what sized tyres you useing? drifting is best done with 185/75/14R's. also is it man or auto?. auto is the best...it will change down mid corner when you punch it and the back will carry out... i found if you practice in a place were the roads are wide enuf to spin out and you start in the wet first and do them <U> <I> <B>SLOW</B> </I> </U>. no more than 40/50 klm/h(15/20mph). when you come to the corner slow down to a safe speed and <I>flick</I> the steering wheel to the way you are turning. this will break the back wheels. the car will not spin out unless you take the next steps. so try <I>flicking </I> even on the straight. once you get the feel of flicking then the rest is all down hill. as you come into the corner flick just before the corner, so start entering the corner then <I>flick</I> as the car steps out slow throtel the whells will hold that postion. dont floor it other wise you spin out. now in the dry you have to be going faster and may have to use the hand break to loosen up the rear wheels. but the idea is the same you will have the best fun on long corners , with these the car will want to keep corecting, so pump the throtel, on/off/on/off. this will keep the car glideing.i entered an event puerly for drifting small square type circut and off we went..best fun you will have. so practice in the wet, this is because you can go slow and still have the same feel and responce. in a station wagon be careful you dont colect wheely bins or guters... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> this is how i do them , everyone has there own way.<p>michael.
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (devalmyth)

I have an automatic DL with stock steelies and balding Kelly tires that came on it when I bought it last year. If it gets wet enough, and I turn hard enough, well you can imagine.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (devalmyth)

OH yeah. I probably should have told yo my specs. Here they are:<p>1992 Volvo 960 Stationwago - Auto - 150 k miles.<p>I have tried it on wet pavement, and lose gravel and feel I have a pretty good feel for the old Volvo. I just wanted to know how do quick tight turns on dry pavement. If I am coming out of grass, and my wheels are spinning, I can easily do one, but how do you initiate one on pavement. Thanks.
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (lax01)

Scandanavian flick or Pendulum turn. Approching a left 90 degree turn, set up on the left side of the road, just before the turn steer right very quickly and then quickly back to the left to make the turn, and the momentum of the sharp jerk to the left will bring the rear around. Add throttle to get the tires spinning mid-turn and it will come right around as long as you stay on the gas. Do the opposite for right turns.<p>For obvious reasons, I recommend open parking lots with no islands for trying this. And this time of year, watch out for leaves on the road, especially when it's wet.
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (lax01)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> If I am coming out of grass, and my wheels are spinning, I can easily do one, .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm....dont be doing that too often you brake your diff in no time flat!with the car you have you should have no trouble hanging it out.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> i love the 960's awsome car. if you whant a extra hand spinning the wheels try using armour all on JUST the back wheels..hehe have fun! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>michael.
 

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how st00pid am i...... i just relisased in your sig was the car stats.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Thanks guys, I will try that over winter break <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>And devalmyth, don't worry, its all good.
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (lax01)

First, one needs limited slip differential action to ensure predictable drifting characteristics. Second, it is best to have tires with excellent grip on the front of the car so that you don't end up just pushing the front end past where you would like to. Third, the front end alignment characteristics are kind of important - for example, in my 1970 142S I have zero degress of toe-in and roughly 1.5 degrees of negative camber, which aid in ensuring that the front tires dig into the turn - the more negative camber the better, and the drifting competition guys in Japan generally run more than 2 degrees of negative front camber, sometimes up to 4 degrees negative camber!<p>Anyhow, the technique, assuming it is a right-hand drift you want to accomplish:<p>Drift technique #1:<p>+ Get roughly in the middle of the path you would like to drift with ample speed<br>+ flick the steering to the left <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_left.gif" BORDER="0"> , then immediately to the right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>+ at this point gravity ought to start doing it's thing, and the rear should want to come out from under you - let it, and if not, downshift and punch the gas pedal; feather clutch pedal if necessary<br>+ flick the steering wheel to the left <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_left.gif" BORDER="0"> so that you are technically steering to the left <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_left.gif" BORDER="0"> yet the car will be going right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>+ keep constant feedback on the steering wheel so that you don't end up looking stupid<br>+ keep an eye peeled for surrounding motorist's reactions (they generally pull the hell off the road when a Volvo appears to be out of control) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Technique #2:<p>+ approach the turn a little bit to the right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> of the middle of the imaginary line you want to traverse, but this time with amazing speed<br>+ let off the gas (possibly downshift if necessary) and snap the wheel to the right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> sort of hard so as to "scrub off" speed<br>+ immediately provide counter-feedback <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_left.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> to the steering wheel as you romp the gas pedal again<br>+ scan the faces of surrounding motorists for their horrified reactions and then laugh <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Technique #3:<p>+ make sure you know what the f*** you are doing first <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emhammer.gif" BORDER="0"><br>+ approach the turn as I have illustrated in either example above<br>+ turn right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"><br>+ pull up the e-brake but DO NOT let it lock<br>+ countersteer <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_left.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emarrow_right.gif" BORDER="0"> accordingly, stir, and enjoy! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>+ oh yeah, and be sure to look in your rearview mirror for horrified expressions on other motorists faces <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Happy drifting!<p>-Dori Kin (he who stacks pork)
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (Leopold Porkstacker)

You guys all watch WAY too much World Rally Championship coverage on Speed Channel... (Then again, I'm guilty of the same.) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"> Yup, those rally drivers sure do make it look easy, don't they? (I know it's not.) Happy Scandanavian-Flicking to ya...
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (Leopold Porkstacker)

Leopold Porkstacker: Thanks, that was an incredible explanation. I really got to try it now. Thanks again.
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (lax01)

No problem man, just helping out my fellow drifters out there!<p>Keep it sideways! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>-he who stacks pork
 

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Re: Best way to do a drift in a RWD stationwagon? (lax01)

So how's the drifting going for 'ya? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>-he who stacks pork
 
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