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well i just want some input from you guys (i 100% know this poll will be biased <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> ) <p>im having a tough time looking for a car and volvos are definitely on the top of my list but i have several others im considering (due to volvo being more expensive) id like some input from everyone but also thost who have owned another im considering and how it matches up considering the price differences<p>(all these would be MT btw)
 

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To be honest I'd go with either the S40/V50 or the S60. You can find really good deals on them as long as you are willing to travel a bit to get it, or ship it to you. MTs are tougher to find, but they aren't impossible to get. If you want a Volvo, hold out until you find it. It took me about 4-6 months for me to find one that I really liked, and I am glad I didn't settle for some of the other mediocre deals.
 

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Re: (carreragt7)

yea thats some of what ive heard<br>but i do kinda need to do it this summer, i have time but not too much..
 

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It's not MT, but its beautiful and I think you should buy my S40. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cicatrizdare</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not MT, but its beautiful and I think you should buy my S40. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>cica ive already looked <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> haha... its very nice btw but idk MT is too much of a mental block for me to get over even though the auto is technically faster
 

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Go with the Volvo! Keep waiting around, a good deal is sure to come up. Definately wait for the manual trans. if its a big deal. I waited also, and it is worth it.
 

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Re: basicly what am i going to do (kentis19)

lol posting a what to buy poll in an enthusiast forum is only going to give a biased answer <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> On that note, go for the s40 dude!
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kentis19</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>even though the auto is technically faster</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is def. not the case with our cars.
 

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Re: basicly what am i going to do (kentis19)

El Caminos are very HOT right now, definitely keep it. Then you can wait for the Ford Focus RS to come to our shores. T5 Volvo engine, 300HP, TIGHT <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PasS40ion</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That is def. not the case with our cars.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I dont think he meant in terms of power. Technically an auto does shift faster than most people would be able to shift; the auto does sap more power than the MT though.<p>On the e90 boards the 335s with the fastest qtr mile times are auto from what my friend has told me. There's no driver error involved and you don't have to worry about grinding/missing a shift.<p>If he was talking about power well then yea not the case.<p>
 

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@ chris -oh yeah the poll was basicly just a joke i knew the results beforehand haha<p>@cmy4x4- (the ELKY is definitely FOR SALE) i really like my EL but honestly its not practical in my life anymore except hauling my bike (no ac two seats becoming unreliable etc )... novelty effect mostly ( i didnt expect any votes for keeping the EL to be honest, unless you guys who voted for it were joking lol)<p>and yeah i meant the shift times are growing slightly faster on some of the newer auto trannys, which it used to be the MTs were much faster but technology has improved the ATs<p>and does anyone have any expirence with the other cars listed on my "poll"
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cicatrizdare</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I dont think he meant in terms of power. Technically an auto does shift faster than most people would be able to shift; the auto does sap more power than the MT though.<p>On the e90 boards the 335s with the fastest qtr mile times are auto from what my friend has told me. There's no driver error involved and you don't have to worry about grinding/missing a shift.<p>If he was talking about power well then yea not the case.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>ya but that is because the e90s automatic gearbox is crazy good (I almost bought a 135i same trans) almost as good as VW DSG, but generally with volvo they put out non-performance oriented auto trans... maybe its for reliability? All you have to do is look at the 0-60s and you can see the difference. I think the diff between an auto S60R and an MT R for a 0-60 is more than a 1.5 seconds with volvo claiming 7.2 seconds for the auto!! Auto is more reliable for consistency but after sometime with the manual there is no comparison. Not hating on the GT guys here but I would need to drive an auto and compare before I ever believe I will be beat in the quater mile by an auto, the manual has been a blast to drive and the shifter works really well I have yet to grind a gear or miss a shift. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PasS40ion</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>ya but that is because the e90s automatic gearbox is crazy good (I almost bought a 135i same trans) almost as good as VW DSG, but generally with volvo they put out non-performance oriented auto trans... maybe its for reliability? All you have to do is look at the 0-60s and you can see the difference. I think the diff between an auto S60R and an MT R for a 0-60 is more than a 1.5 seconds with volvo claiming 7.2 seconds for the auto!! Auto is more reliable for consistency but after sometime with the manual there is no comparison. Not hating on the GT guys here but I would need to drive an auto and compare before I ever believe I will be beat in the quater mile by an auto, the manual has been a blast to drive and the shifter works really well I have yet to grind a gear or miss a shift. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yea, in a qtr mile you'd beat an auto. I have no doubt about that. I'm just saying that without the power difference, an auto would probably win if you were comparing time spent on/between shifts. <p>That's for another day though.<p>I still think you should consider my car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Go for the S60. It's quite a bit of car, for not much more money. Not sure if you want new or used but a few year old S60 can be had for high teens. Make sure you look around. I purchased my last car for a suburban Detroit dealer and drove it home. It was well worth the price of a plane ticket. Found it on the web and worked the deal inside of two weeks. Would def. do it again.
 

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Re: basicly what am i going to do (kentis19)

OK... I voted on keeping your 85 El Camino , because I didn't want to be bias at all. I remember in high school that "EL" is like the man word for "The" but what the heck does "Camino" mean (sorry , my spanish doesn't excide getting by in a Florida Wal-Mart)
 

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Bikes go really nice on or in a V50. We easily stack 2 road bikes in the car with the seats folded down, and the roof has plenty of room for 4 bikes. We have an awd manual and on the stock wheels and stock ride height it does great for getting the to far away forest service trail heads for mountain biking. Now with the 18" wheels and the heico front lip I have to slow it down on the dirt. If you do a lot of outdoor stuff the V50 is a great alternative to an SUV.<p>V50 all the way!!!
 

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thanks guys for the input<p>@comp1-- i really like s60s they are very nice for my price range id have to be looking 01-04 about.<p>@v50_t5 -- were you seriously wanting me to keep my el camino just curious?<br>and im pretty sure it means "the road" or "the way" in spanish<p>v50pdx -- i first wanted a s60 then i liked the younger look of a s40 and now am leaning toward the v50 because of its versitility. i wouldnt lose the carrying capcity of my EL and would be gaining 3 seats but it all depends on the right deal that floats my way as of now money might be the biggest issue but i WILL ALWAYS opt for the volvo over the (any other car) hahaha<p>EDIT: One more thing... have any of you guys ever 'sourced' a vehical from a dealership?? please enlighten me on this topic thanks
 

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Re: (kentis19)

I'm not sure about anyone else's opinion but the Mazdaspeed 3 is a fun quick car. If I was in the market for a hatchback I would throw some bucks Mazda's way as it has I believe 260 hp stock and is VERY tunable. It is a fun car to drive and has spanked my S40T5 many times.<br>Todd
 
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