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Just today, a Norwegian ship carrying 2,852 BMW, Saab, and Volvo cars collided with a container ship and sank in the English channel. <A HREF="http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=World%20News&s1=blk&tp=ad_news&refer=uktopworld&T=uk_front_news.ht&s2=blk&s=APfsi1hZnTm9yd2Vn" TARGET="_blank">Full news article</A>.
 

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Re: Bad news... (Bert)

That blows <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<IMG SRC="http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021214/capt.1039896629.topix_france_britain_channel_collision_lil106.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>AP News photo. The cargo ship is actually resting on the bottom of the channel (27 m deep), but at low tide, its side is not completely submerged.<BR><BR>
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a silver lining or just wishful thinking...

According to <A HREF="http://www.volvospy.com/w-agora4/view.php?bn=volvospy_xc90ubb&key=1039884096&first=1039918579&last=1039340327" TARGET="_blank">this thread on vvspy.com</A> the ship that sank did not carry any XC90s that were headed for California.
 

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Re: Bad news... (Bert)

I wonder how many of these cars will be repaired, reconditioned then sold after the ship is brought up? That is a lot of cars. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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According to <A HREF="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021214/ap_on_re_eu/britain_channel_collision_3" TARGET="_blank">this report</A>, there's little chance of salvaging the cargo. When the ship overturned, the cars were probably knocked around into a huge pile of rubble. I'm glad to hear that the crew was not hurt and that no chemical spill resulted.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I wonder how many of these cars will be repaired, reconditioned then sold after the ship is brought up? That is a lot of cars. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Are you kidding me? These cars are definitely...flood-damaged! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Anyway, as Bert pointed out, I am sure that all the cars are squashed together but even if they weren't, if the ship just sunk and went down in a striaght manner, you can't save cars that ave been submerged in water...you will have to recontruct them with all the electronics, etc. on board. Might as well let insurance pay for them so you can make new ones.<p>I bet Wallenius Wilhelmsen's stock is going to be ruined. Usually, with shipping companies, one accident is enough to...sink their stock (no pun intended)...<p><br>Yannis
 

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Re: Bad news... (GrecianVolvo)

There's substantial damage to the other cargo ship as seen <A HREF="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/wl/121502shipcollision&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=1&e=1&t=" TARGET="_blank">in these photos</A> but it's quite amazing that the cargo containers near the ship's bow are still neatly stacked... It's still unclear to me why the Tricolor, which is actually much larger in size, suffered significantly more severe damage. Maybe the smaller ship, being lower, caused the taller ship to lose its vertical stability and flipped it over. This is contrary to the general belief that you'll be safer in a larger vehicle, but obviously, the physics are quite different when you're not on solid ground...<BR><BR>
[Modified by Bert, 8:00 PM 12-15-2002]
 

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I wonder how many of these cars will be repaired, reconditioned then sold after the ship is brought up? That is a lot of cars. <br> <U>PARTS CARS ANYONE!!!!</U>
 

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Re: Bad news... (Turbo16psi)

Wow, this got to be one of the largest accident involving Volvo cars. I am glad nobody on the ships was physically hurt. But there are going to be a lot of unhappy people (myself included <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> ) when we find out the cars we have been waiting for are on the bottom of the English Channel... <p>Can you imagine all the cars rolling over, and falling onto each other in that cargo ship? With all the crash testing that Volvo do at their Safety Center, this is probably one of the few accident scenario that even they can't recreate. Wonder how well the Boron roof holds up in this situation...<br><BR><BR>
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Re: Bad news... (nomis)

more bad news..... <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2578803.stm" TARGET="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2578803.stm</a>
 

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Re: Bad news... (Phil Pugliese)

In one of the news broadcasts, I actually saw one of the guys pulling a V70 bumper cover out of the water. It makes me sick hearing this story all over the web.<p>-Drew
 

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Next on Discovery: <p>James Cameron's Vivid Volvo Voyage of Discovery... <p>Film Mega Mogul James Cameron, who brought you such epic journeys as Titanic and that other ship that nobody really remembers the name of takes you on another deep see diving excursion. This time to recover bits and pieces of trashed Volvo's which had become victims of catastrpohy. Join Mr. Cameron on this trek to the bottom of the sea to find, view, and perhaps recover some artifacts from these cars once deemed, "Safest in the World" <br>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I wonder how many of these cars will be repaired, reconditioned then sold after the ship is brought up? That is a lot of cars. <br> <U>PARTS CARS ANYONE!!!!</U> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>That's definitely not gonna happen, Todd...these cars are GONE, FOREVER!<p>Yannis
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>more bad news..... <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2578803.stm" TARGET="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2578803.stm</A><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>This is even more crazy and bordering stupidity! I can'r believe after what happened there was another accident involving the wreck!!!<IMG SRC="http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/stupid.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Yannis
 

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Re: Bad news... (GrecianVolvo)

That's definitely not gonna happen, Todd...these cars are GONE, FOREVER!<p>NOOOOOO!!!!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>That's definitely not gonna happen, Todd...these cars are GONE, FOREVER!<p>NOOOOOO!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>YEAH.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcrook.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yannis
 

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Re: Bad news... (GrecianVolvo)

Wonder how many Z8s are rusting away down there...<p><IMG SRC="http://rapidcars.com/BMWZ82.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>The downed Tricolor being hit a second time almost seems like a coup de grace to put it out of its misery! Life is definitely stranger than fiction.<BR><BR>
[Modified by Bert, 6:10 AM 12-17-2002]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I wonder how many of these cars will be repaired, reconditioned then sold after the ship is brought up? That is a lot of cars. <br> <U>PARTS CARS ANYONE!!!!</U> <p>That's definitely not gonna happen, Todd...these cars are GONE, FOREVER!<p>Yannis<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>yup, one day in the far far future.. some divers might find them and think there was once a city there that got covered in water. the only pieces left of the undwater city are their rusting cars (which should have been rust proofed) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> hjehehe
 

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Re: Bad news... (Bert)

Actually it has nothing to do with relative size of the ships. From the pictures, it looks as though the Kariba "T-Boned" the Tricolor. So, she sustained moderate bow damage, while carving a nice big hole in the Tricolor. I did this years ago on a 26' sailboat during a night race. We T-Boned (broad sided) another boat of about 32'. We bent up our bow pulpit. The other boat lost its mast, and sustained major hull damage. Sorry to all who won't get their XC90's. Glad I got mine on Novermber 25th.
 
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