Re: (Husker Z)

Quote, originally posted by Husker Z »

UGH, that doesn't sound like mine at all!!! Hopefully I get all the bugs worked out of this thing in the next 18K miles!

I'm sorry to hear this man...

My R is a total hoot in the rain. It's no Audi but it still inspires quite bit of confidence.

Yesterday's fun: There is a smooth 90 degree off-ramp to allow drivers to move from Foothill Expwy. to El Monte without stopping. Well dumb-ass me decided to take this turn on wet road in 3rd. I slowed to 35, got back on the gas, passed through the apex, and then added gas and got beautiful sliding oversteer. In fact, I think the AWD added a bit too much because as soon the rears caught up I shot through the exit, making the nose twitch a bit.

I think when I upgrade some mounts and bushings next year, better tires, tweak the alignment, plus sways - it'll get way better.

 

Re: (mrapczynski)

Quote, originally posted by mrapczynski »

I'm sorry to hear this man... My R is a total hoot in the rain. It's no Audi but it still inspires quite bit of confidence. Yesterday's fun: There is a smooth 90 degree off-ramp to allow drivers to move from Foothill Expwy. to El Monte without stopping. Well dumb-ass me decided to take this turn on wet road in 3rd. I slowed to 35, got back on the gas, passed through the apex, and then added gas and got beautiful sliding oversteer. In fact, I think the AWD added a bit too much because as soon the rears caught up I shot through the exit, making the nose twitch a bit. I think when I upgrade some mounts and bushings next year, better tires, tweak the alignment, plus sways - it'll get way better.

When I can get mine to engage, it does seem like it'll be a blast to drive in wet/snow, but not now, hell, I literally can't even move 1/2 the time.

 

Re: (Husker Z)

Sounds like time for a dealer visit and get that diagnosed. You have warranty, make it count.

 

Re: (mrapczynski)

Quote, originally posted by mrapczynski »

Sounds like time for a dealer visit and get that diagnosed. You have warranty, make it count.

Yup, it's going in Thursday. Am I the only one that feels guilty for taking my car in all the time?

 

Re: (Husker Z)

I'll give you a potential hint:

Before I knew better, being a new R owner, I had mine in for brake squeal. Lost cause, I know. But I also had a separate issue and asked for software updates and got new software including for the TCM (I have the GT trans.) and the DEM (AWD module), among about 4 or 5 other modules. The DEM was one of the core updates, it addressed some behavior about axle speeds, and maybe other stuff. Who knows.

I got this update package on the house but usually dealers charge for software UNLESS there is a reproducible and documented problem with the R (i.e. backed up by tech note) - see if you can weasel the "total care something-something" out of your service group for the software.

 

Re: (mrapczynski)

Regarding the Haldex disabling via handbrake, how does it work? From where does the car get the information to disable Haldex?
It's not the handbrake light switch but something else. Does it sense the drag on the rear axle?

Yes, I'm dreaming of an AWD-switch on the dashboard

 

Pressure sensor switch being replaced. I guess there was a code in the computer when they read it.

I'm driving an S80 T6 AWD and the difference in it's AWD and the way mine was acting is night and day, I hope mine works like this when I get it back, it's awesome.

 

Re: (Husker Z)

I test drove an T6 AWD last year - really really nice...but it felt too isolated from the road.

Even though many experienced R owners comment on our cars' mild numbness, it is still agile and aggressive when you hit the turns.

 

Re: (mrapczynski)

What kind of tires are you running?

Even with FWD only, you should be able to move in the snow.

 

Re: (Needsdecaf)

Quote, originally posted by Needsdecaf »

What kind of tires are you running? Even with FWD only, you should be able to move in the snow.

New Kumho Exstas (sp???) or whatever they are called. Tires is definitely NOT the problem, when the AWD actually does slam into gear, I take right off. When I'm not moving, their is just no power going anywhere. The traction control is looking for tires to send power to, but I think it's looking for all 4, yet only two are getting power. So, I just lose all power and I sit there and don't spin (hardly) with the fronts and the rears do absolutely nothing.

Hopefully this pressure switch takes care of it, I'm sure it will........for now.

 

Re: (Husker Z)

Before i had my 04 VR GT i had a 02 s60 awd. Just took the VR out in the snow...totally different than the s60. i liked the s60 better actually. I feel like my r's awd isnt as instant. i feel like that "slamming" we all experince shouldnt happen.
I Did have blizzaks for the s60 and i am running all season z rated nexen n7000's now but...i dunno. I feel like that shouldnt be a HUGE difference.

Has anybody gone to the dealer regarding this slam into rear drive and gotten a SOLID answer?

 

Re: (v0lv0steve)

Quote, originally posted by v0lv0steve »

Before i had my 04 VR GT i had a 02 s60 awd. Just took the VR out in the snow...totally different than the s60. i liked the s60 better actually. I feel like my r's awd isnt as instant. i feel like that "slamming" we all experince shouldnt happen. I Did have blizzaks for the s60 and i am running all season z rated nexen n7000's now but...i dunno. I feel like that shouldnt be a HUGE difference. Has anybody gone to the dealer regarding this slam into rear drive and gotten a SOLID answer?

Not sure on the older Haldex systems, but on mine, there should be ZERO slamming due to it being precharged, but I would assume none of them should actually slam into gear.

Like I said, mine is a pressure switch, which makes sense since it works sometimes flawlessly, but other times it just wouldn't engage at all.

 

Re: (Husker Z)

Quote, originally posted by Husker Z »

When I'm not moving, their is just no power going anywhere. The traction control is looking for tires to send power to, but I think it's looking for all 4, yet only two are getting power. So, I just lose all power and I sit there and don't spin (hardly) with the fronts and the rears do absolutely nothing.

Ummm, maybe a stupid question, but have you tried reducing or turning off DSTC? If you leave it on, it will cut throttle to almost nothing if it detects much wheelspin. And a busted AWD could confuse it even more...

 

Re: (Husker Z)

Quote, originally posted by Husker Z »

Here's what it does. If I start from a dead stop, the front wheels spin, never sending power to the rear and then the traction control kicks in and starts robbing power from the fronts while NEVER sending it to the rear and I just sit there barely moving. Eventually, if I play with the throttle long enough, the rears will engage, HARD and I'll start to move fine. Then, it'll work okay for a minute or so, then back to the same crap. If I turn the DSTC to "Reduced", I don't get the power robbing and I will actually be able to move a little bit simply because I can spin the front wheels, but never the rear. Again, if I keep spinning them they will eventually engage hard again and it'll continue on in AWD. When DSTC is "Off", I can hammer it and the fronts spin like crazy and eventually the rears will SLAM into gear and I'll take off.

Yeah, I tried all settings.

It's into Superior Volvo now and I should get it back tomorrow or monday with a brand spanking new pressure sensor/switch (I forget what they said).

 

Re: (Husker Z)

Quote, originally posted by Husker Z »

Not sure on the older Haldex systems, but on mine, there should be ZERO slamming due to it being precharged, but I would assume none of them should actually slam into gear. Like I said, mine is a pressure switch, which makes sense since it works sometimes flawlessly, but other times it just wouldn't engage at all.

I have an '04 V70R GT and there is NO slamming whatsoever. I'd take it into the dealer.

 

Re: (Needsdecaf)

Quote, originally posted by Needsdecaf »

I have an '04 V70R GT and there is NO slamming whatsoever. I'd take it into the dealer.

It's sleeping there tonight and maybe over the weekend, depending on when the part comes in.

 

FIXED!! Actually came up when they hooked it up to the computer as a fault. All the snow is gone, but I can already tell it's fixed. I used to get my front wheels to chatter if I went WOT from a stop and now I feel nothing but my back against the seat. Superior took care of me again!!

 

hmm...i took the car out for a spin in the snow storm we had on saturday here.

with DSTC on i didn't have much of a problem except just the loss of power.

with it off, i felt like just the front tires were spinning and nothing else. to verify i tried to take some turns under throttle to kick the rear out like i have done before and got nothing...just wheelspin and the car plowed forward!!

the more throttle i gave it, the more i didn't get any traction. i really can't tell if the rears were spinning or not and i don't know if it was the car not working as it should or the snow was just extremely slippery.

in the last snow storm we had, i didn't do anything crazy cause there wasn't much on the ground and it was more of a wet slush, but i didn't have any problems getting around.

this last snow it was very cold out and the snow was like a fine powder. it was slippery even to walk on.

i am running blizzaks on my car so i know it's not the tires.

last year we had a pretty big snow storm with 6-7 inches and i got around just fine with the rear kicking out and plenty of grip.

anyway..i'm thinking of making an appointment for the dealer to check the AWD now. i had the car at a local mechanic for an alignment recently and asked them to do the angle gear test - which they took to the next level and actually put the car in drive while it was on the lift. they said the traction control freaked out a bit but the rear wheels did move. would have been nice for them to just do what i asked since i couldn't get a straight answer out of them easily anyway.

but anyway...yeah...i'm really getting tired of being paranoid something is broken on my car. really tired.

EDIT: and does anyone else think it's retarded that the damn car doesn't throw a code if the AWD does not work?? lol!

 

Re: (Husker Z)

Quote, originally posted by Husker Z »

It's into Superior Volvo now and I should get it back tomorrow or monday with a brand spanking new pressure sensor/switch (I forget what they said).

I'm dropping off my 07 SR at the dealer tomorrow to get the pressure/temp sensor replaced as I am able to spin the front tires on any surface, but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't too. Dealer has a new part waiting for me regardless, lets see what cool loaner I get, haha!

 

Re: (TGO)

Have someone stand outside the car while you are spinning and see if the rears are moving. That's what I did to confirm what I was feeling. Your symptoms are very similar to mine.

 

yeah well unfortunately i didn't have anyone handy and now the roads are clear so i'm not looking to wait until the next time it snows to verify.

 

Re: (Needsdecaf)

Quote, originally posted by Needsdecaf »

I have an '04 V70R GT and there is NO slamming whatsoever. I'd take it into the dealer.

+1

No slamming here, just grip.

 

Re: (PureDrive07)

Quote, originally posted by PureDrive07 »

I'm dropping off my 07 SR at the dealer tomorrow to get the pressure/temp sensor replaced as I am able to spin the front tires on any surface, but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't too. Dealer has a new part waiting for me regardless, lets see what cool loaner I get, haha!

Dealer confirmed today....Pressure Sensor was toast and probably had been that way for a few months with all the codes that were stored....a certain dealer in Central Jersey that start's with an 'R' said it was all in my head and that these cars are BEASTS and its normal

Thank You Bridgewater Volvo for fixing my AWD

 

i think i'm just gonna call that indy guy nick in north jersey. someone said he can get warranty work done, and even if he can't atleast he can give me info to arm myself with when i do go to the dealer.

 

Re: (Husker Z)

I'm not sure if you already said this but what tires are you running in the snow?