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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (row)

Fully sythetic. Mobil makes a sythetic that is 1/4 the price of the Volvo fluid and is the same make. Jim Lill could you please let us know what that Mobil product is?
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (Mash)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mash</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fully sythetic. Mobil makes a sythetic that is 1/4 the price of the Volvo fluid and is the same make. Jim Lill could you please let us know what that Mobil product is?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Learn how to use search.... I hit it first try<p>mobil AND fluid (in body), R forum<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=60240" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=60240</A>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JimLill)

Right as rain Jim! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (Mash)

... and for the UMPTEENTH time Mobil 3309 is NOT synthetic but is THE recommended trans fluid
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... and for the UMPTEENTH time Mobil 3309 is NOT synthetic but is THE recommended trans fluid</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You're right Jim. But could we explore the proposition that Mobil 1 full synthetic ATF might be even better?<br>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (ljjones)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ljjones</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You're right Jim. But could we explore the proposition that Mobil 1 full synthetic ATF might be even better?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>No, not in this case. 3309 is the ONLY recommended stuff. I for one have owned a 2000 with a poor shifting trans which became <B>perfect</B> after 50 miles after a fluid change of 3309
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...I for one have owned a 2000 with a poor shifting trans which became <B>perfect</B> after 50 miles after a fluid change of 3309</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And I have a '99 that became perfect immediately after a flush and change to Mobil 1 syn ATF. Both fluids are very similar, but the 3309 is not quite all the way to full synthetic.<p>We know 3309 is recommended, but we also know Volvo recommends no fluid changes. I take such recommendations with a grain of salt.<br>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (ljjones)

99, 4 speed, fine with synthetic<br>2000 5 speed Aisin Warner, 3309 a must
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JRL)

<IMG SRC="http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Images/Products/ATF3309_top.gif" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_ATF_3309.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-En....aspx</A><p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Mobil</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mobil ATF 3309 is recommended for use in transmissions made by Aisin AW requiring a fluid approved against Type T-IV, JWS 3309, GM 9986195 and Audi G-052-025-A2. These Aisin AW transmissions are used in CERTAIN domestic and foreign vehicles, including Toyota, Lexus, Audi, Saturn, Ford, Volvo, Volkswagen, Saab, Porsche, and Mitsubishi.<p>The unique formulation of Mobil ATF 3309 is designed to provide excellent lubrication of transmissions in specified Aisin AW slip-controlled lock-up automatic transmissions. These outstanding performance capabilities translate into significant operational benefits.</TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JimLill)

OK, I'll mutter "touché" and defer to the two Jims on this one. Let's remember that JWS3309 is only a specification, however. Not a recommendation for the Mobil 3309 brand name. If you prefer to run fully synthetic fluids, there may be a full synthetic out there that "meets and exceeds" the JWS3309 spec. I don't know if the Mobil 1 full syn ATF does, or any other full synthetic for that matter. Research is your friend. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (ljjones)

Can I use Amsoil ATF? JWS 3309 is listed as one of the specifications. I was going to use Mobil 1, but after finding out it's not fully synthetic, I'm back dealer ATF or Amsoil.<p><A HREF="https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx" TARGET="_blank">https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx</A>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (volvoNB)

I'd be leery of using other than Volvo or Mobil unless it specifically says A-W usage like the Mobil 3309.<p>As an aside, I'll NEVER use Amsoil no matter how good because of overwhelming barrage of info they have on the net. They act like snake-oil, so I treat them that way.<p>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JimLill)

a 3309 Must Read -> <A HREF="http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/index.php?s=87d7cb6d2ff60452293eecf503fbb256&act=Attach&type=post&id=4581" TARGET="_blank">http://www.siennaclub.org/foru...=4581</A>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (JimLill)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a 3309 Must Read -> <A HREF="http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/index.php?s=87d7cb6d2ff60452293eecf503fbb256&act=Attach&type=post&id=4581" TARGET="_blank">http://www.siennaclub.org/foru...=4581</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ummm, not scientific, but I did a complete flush replace of my old 2002 S60 AWD with Amsoil ATF almost 40k miles ago--still drives great and as good as the day it was purchased...<p>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (volvoNB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>volvoNB</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can I use Amsoil ATF? JWS 3309 is listed as one of the specifications...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Amsoil "universal" ATF? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>There was a discussion about that stuff last year here:<p><A HREF="http://www.v70xc.com/forums/printthread.php?t=244&page=1&pp=10" TARGET="_blank">http://www.v70xc.com/forums/pr...pp=10</A><p><br>EDIT: changed link to point to page 1 of discussion<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by ljjones at 11:46 PM 7-15-2006</i>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (ljjones)

Beaten to death.<p>Mobil 3309 is JWS approved and accepted as a direct replacement for Volvo fluid. Neither one is advertised to be "synthetic". <p>It's been verbally stated they are. But it doesn't say so on the bottles or advertisments. Mobil 3309 is heavily heavily suspected to be the Volvo fluid at 75% less than the Stealership fluid.<p>Call a Mobil distributor and buy the 3309
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (ljjones)

I am all for you being the trial guy for using Mobil 1 synthetic ATF. I am pretty convinced, however that certain trans oils are indeed different and have characteristics which influence shift quality and TC life. <br>The AW trans auto's must use JWS type 3309 fluids.<p>I think too many people get hung up on synthetic versus non synthetic. It really doesn't matter as long as it meets JWS 3309 specification. <p>And Mobil 3309 is basically non synthetic, and the "volvo" fluid is the same and it's not synthetic either. I think people assimulate the high cost the dealers are selling the fluid for for the uneducated, to be a special synthetic, when in fact it's just rebadged Mobil 3309. Why use anything else.? These AW trans' if properly maintained with fluid changes should last 300,000 miles. <br> <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ljjones</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>And I have a '99 that became perfect immediately after a flush and change to Mobil 1 syn ATF. Both fluids are very similar, but the 3309 is not quite all the way to full synthetic.<p>We know 3309 is recommended, but we also know Volvo recommends no fluid changes. I take such recommendations with a grain of salt.<br></TD></TR></TABLE>
 

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Re: Auto Trans Fluid (fredmc)

Fred, I'm with you on this one. I don't understand all the reluctance to accept a fully qualified product from a MAJOR lubricant company, one that cleary states that it meets <i><b>all</b></i> the manufacturer's (as in transmission) specifications.<p>The base stock of the ATF is probably nothing special, but the friction modifiers must be tailored specifically (there's that word again) for the AW55. As well as having a good slug of antioxidants and stabilizers for the extended change interval. <p>Mobil isn't in the business of buying back blown trannies.<p>$4/Qt + shipping: <A HREF="http://store.avlube.com/mobilatf3309.html" TARGET="_blank">http://store.avlube.com/mobilatf3309.html</A>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fredmc</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am all for you being the trial guy for using Mobil 1 synthetic ATF...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Fred: If you read the whole thread (or check my profile) you will learn that my car is a '99, so I'm good to go with Mobil 1 ATF. That's what I've always run.<p>I'll let you guys with the AW55s debate the JWS3309 vs Mobil3309 vs Volvo factory-fill thing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>
 
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