[zoomin]

Just picked up a 2006 V70 2.5T.

It has the HU-650, and I am guessing 6 speakers; tweeters in the doors in front of the latches and 6.5" ? woofers below in both front and rear doors.

It sounds terrible.

I have done some searching and found out a few things though not specifically for this car and not for this HU.

I read this great write-up: http://www.jimrothe.com/volvo/volvo-dynaudio.html

but it applies to older models. Do the speaker upgrade part numbers apply to the 2006 V70 as well?

Will a V70 with the base speaker package be wired for the other speakers (I think the two missing will be the two tweeters in the D-pillars).

As for amplification - does the HU-650 have amplifier line-outs lik the HU-850 has?

Thanks.

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

You are not alone, Volvo eliminated access to the internal equalizer settings in the HU-x50 head units and sound quality suffered in the eyes (ears?) of many.

Just because you have the grills in front of the latches, does not mean there is a driver behind it. The base sound system (performance in Volvo lingo) had co-axials in the doors and no discrete tweeters. Put your ear right up to it and check it out.

There is no Dynaudio option for the P2 V70's (and S60's; P2= MY2001 and up). So, no, the part #'s do not apply.

Yes, your V70 should be wired for the D-pillar speakers and, if I'm not mistaken, you should have something back there now.

The HU-650 does have a line out (DIN plug) that can be hooked up to the oem aux amp (PA200 or 300) or to an aftermarket amp. The power cable for this amp is prewired under the front passenger seat, but you will need the HU to amp cables and amp to speaker harness (behind the HU) cable.

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

I checked and I do have speakers in the doors by the handles as well as the woofers down below.

There are speakers already in the D-pillars.

I found a wrecked V70R at the local Volvo graveyard and it had the Premium package. One side was wrecked though so no passengers side front door speaker pod but i got most of the rest: HU-850, powered sub unit that goes in with the spare tire, amplifier for under the passenger seat and the remainder of the speakers.

It looks like i have both connectors for the amp under the passenger seat - they are taped together.

I have already tried the sub out - my car is pre-wired for it.

My door panels are not the ones that are designed for these two-way speaker modules. I guess i will need to get different door panels if I want to use them? Or maybe just change that small part of the door panel?

The wrecker forgot to pull the tweeters from the front doors, but are they going to be any different then the ones I already have?

This is a good start i think, but seeing these two-way mounts with the 8" woofer makes me think some nice aftermarket three-way components will fit in there at some point...

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

Good find on the sub.

The premium sound system is a true 3-way up front, there are crossovers in the front doors, IIRC; did you get them?

The premium woofer is larger than the perf and hi-perf coax, and there is the additional mid-range. The door panel reflects that.

I've never done this, but you might be able to fit the woofer behind the bottom grill in the front. It will occlude part of the speaker cone. And then you'll have to do something about the midrange. The premium grill itself is a separate part number and can be ordered alone. Have you thought about adapting the door panel for the midrange by cutting a hole in it and covering it with the oem premium sound grill? I once compared the two door panels and the dimensions were very close if I remember correctly. You could also enlarge the cut-out for the woofer, too.

Only one person on this forum ever attempted fitting aftermarket 8" drivers and they did not recommend anyone else try it. The oem works because of the custom integral housing. It doesn't lend itself to aftermarket drivers.

The premium drivers are made by Harman and are pretty good.

The premium tweeters are different part number & may be rated for higher output than the hi-perf, but on paper they don't look too much different. They are also rated for higher power. Specs for all the U's and speakers are here.

Which amp did you get, pa-200 or 300?

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

There are capacitors in the housing that holds the woofer and midrange driver for the front door panels so i am guessing that this is the crossover and that there is not some other box in the door panel somewhere.

I will try and get it to fit with the regular door panels, but it is good news that the speaker cove panel can be purchased separately from the panel as finding the whole premium sound panel in my color on the used market would be difficult and expensive. Though new from the dealer the speaker cover might be the same price...

I am not too sure on the amp - it is not market with either PA-200 or PA-300. I'll try and match the other numbers at some point.

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

Forgot about the filters on the on housings. I was thinking about the c70--I've got a full set of Dynaudio drivers from a coupe that I've yet to use; too much rework.

Last time I checked, the metal grills were something like $50-70.

I think the grills are glued to the panel & the parts listing says that they cannot be reused, I take that to mean that they get knackered when removed. If it is a hot melt, you could always try to warm it with a heat gun 1st, just watch out for the rest of the panel.

Check the part number for the amp here or post it and I'll look it up for you.

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

I looked on this site:
http://vccs.volvocars.se/acces...1.htm

and I can't match any of the numbers on the amp: 30752258, CDV5A, 07W07

I got one tweeter out of the drivers side door, and I cross-referenced and the D-pillar drivers are the same in all the audio packages.

So all I need now to complete the premium sound update is passengers side front door speakers ... and door panels?

I just read another thread here http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/...=5644 which seems to indicate that I will need to find new door panels if I want to use the Premium midrange and woofer module; there won't be enough room in mine and of course there will be no way for the sound to escape the panel for the midrange.

 

[zoomin]

Any risk installing the amp and sub and just leaving the rest of the speakers as they are for the time being?

 

[MrTippy]

Re: (zoomin)

No, just watch your levels. I am running a pa300 with the perf sound system (lowest rated) speakers. You'll know when your speakers are being over driven.

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

I have VADIS 2005A and could not find that part number (30752258), but that doesn't mean much. Volvo uses a lot of different numbers for equivalent parts over the model years. Call your local dealer and ask them to look it up for you. It might be from MY07.

I'm getting this feeling of deja view all over again: I did this comparison a while back, here's how they shape up (below). It would take some cutting make an opening for the midrange to fit. It's not going to match the oem, but it may be acceptable; looks like a new grill would cover it up nicely. You would have to fashion some kind of cover piece to go under the grill where the midrange is. A nice piece of veneer to match the dash or piece of black acrylic would do it.

If my memory serve me the door panel measurements are nearly identical. That should not be too hard to determine.

There are now, presumably, more wrecks out there, maybe I can find me some door panels, too.

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

Thanks MrTippy.

Hopefully we have different interior colours or we'll be bidding against each other on ebay for those Premium panels

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

Don't worry, I'm not lookin' too hard. http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

I plugged in the sub this morning just with my existing setup and it fills in the bottom end quite nicely.

This weekend when I swap out the head unit and install the amp, will I need to go to the dealership for a software update of some sort?

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

Most, including me, have plugged in the new HU and been good to go. If something doesn't work, then maybe you will need a d/l. The new HU should recognize the amp, too w/o software d/l.

IIRC, there is a software download for the subwoofer, although I don't remember what it does. If you google search the forum maybe you can find out. Probably has something to do with a new setup in the HU to take advantage of the sub. Remember with the HU-X50's, Volvo removed access to the internal equalizer.

Also, if you are swapping HU's don't forget to disconnect the battery 1st if you are going to disconnect the CCM (Climate Control Module) otherwise it's a trip to the dealer & $100 to reset the srs error code.

HU install instructions

 

[ss60]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

some ideas:

Here are a nice set of the premium drivers (front doors) for sale on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...akers

A JL Cleansweep (441), does wonders for recovering missing portions of the output from Volvo headunits. I put one in my car so that I could get away with using an iPod as a sound source. (i.e. compensate for the poor dsp in the iPod), but when testing found that Volvo HU was also a contributing culprit in the poor sound quality.

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (ss60)

I have been looking at those - there is also a single but I need the passenger side and that is the drivers side.

Like Mr Tippy and I were discussing though, it's the door panels that will probably be the rate-determining step for me in getting the full Premium kit installed. I do not want to pay dealership prices for them and I don't think the wife would like it if I started frankensteining the ones we have (it's *her* car

)

Until then, I'll run the older speakers in the doors and swap out the rear speakers (the D-pillars are the same so I have a pair for sale).

As for the cleansweep - would you recommend using that with the factory amp?

Modified by zoomin at 12:38 PM 3-5-2009

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

Quote, originally posted by zoomin »

(it's *her* car )

That's my situation, too.

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

Quote, originally posted by MrTippy »

That's my situation, too.

Haha!

I'm not complaining too much.

Now that we are a two car family, I am allowed to make *my car* as *bumpy* and as *loud* as I want.

That means new high-flow exhaust and Koni+Eibach suspension upgrade's in my future!

 

[MrTippy]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (zoomin)

Quote, originally posted by zoomin »

...I am allowed to make *my car* as *bumpy* and as *loud* as I want.

I've got potholes to do that for me.

My koni days are over, I like comfort +.

 

[zoomin]

Re: Audio options for 2006 V70 (MrTippy)

Well I was driving past a Volvo Graveyard this morning well out of town and decided to stop in.

They had a number of S60s and put together a pair of door panels with PRemium Sound speaker covers from two different S60s that seem to match our 2006 V70 interior.

Unfortunately I was in our other car so I could not compare side-by-side. Before I go up there again with the V70, does anyone have any idea what model years and models have the same door panels?

Thanks.