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Only recently have I had the need for more room in my car. I like my car now, and theres nothing out there that can satisfy me as my car does now, so i'm thinking about going to a v70R. The thing is, I know taht a wagon has more 'meat' so is it slower, worse on gas, or heavier around turns, or is that just the numbers on paper??<p><br>ps-looking for a v70 R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>pps, i'd also like to see some photos of silver or titanium Vs!!
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dj Schmidty</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only recently have I had the need for more room in my car. I like my car now, and theres nothing out there that can satisfy me as my car does now, so i'm thinking about going to a v70R. The thing is, I know taht a wagon has more 'meat' so is it slower, worse on gas, or heavier around turns, or is that just the numbers on paper??<br>ps-looking for a v70 R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>pps, i'd also like to see some photos of silver or titanium Vs!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hey. i know that the wagon is heavier for sure. then it has to be at least a little slower than the sedan no matter what... so i guess a few of the numbers on paper should reflect the truth. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>good luck <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dj Schmidty</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The thing is, I know taht a wagon has more 'meat' so is it slower, worse on gas, or heavier around turns, or is that just the numbers on paper??</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you believe Volvo's published numbers, the V is about .2 seconds slower 0-60. In real world driving......non existent. Some V owners have mentioned that the wagon handles a bit better in the corners since there's a better weight balance.<p>Best of luck. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>P.S. Check the photo gallery:<p><A HREF="http://www.deepnetconsulting.com/swedespeed/gallery/r" TARGET="_blank">http://www.deepnetconsulting.c...ery/r</A>/
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dj Schmidty</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only recently have I had the need for more room in my car. I like my car now, and theres nothing out there that can satisfy me as my car does now, so i'm thinking about going to a v70R. The thing is, I know taht a wagon has more 'meat' so is it slower, worse on gas, or heavier around turns, or is that just the numbers on paper??<p><br>ps-looking for a v70 R <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>pps, i'd also like to see some photos of silver or titanium Vs!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, the wagon is going to be a bit slower. But it's even rarer than the S60R! If you need the room, I highly recommend it. It's still a lot stinking faster than most cars out there! <p>P.S Here is a link to the classifieds where there is a 2004 V70R Silver on Atacama for sale, among others. <p>Good luck! <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=34" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zeroforum?id=34</A>
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

Of course they are, <U>they weigh more</U>
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

My wife's 2006 V70R <B><U>feels</U></B> faster than my 2005 S60R when it was bone stock. I can't explain it but I drive the cars back-to-back and it is absolutely noticeable; especially in the low to midrange portion of the powerband.<p>Just my butt dyno but...<p>Regards,<p>Derek<br>
 

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2006 has Instant Traction. It will not have as significant a bogg on start. It should feel a bit faster on some starts. If you time everything just right on previous models it should be equal. Anyway those were my impressions when driving both.<p>BTW the V has a trac more on the oversteer side than the S. But nothing dramatic. You can feel it though.
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some V owners have mentioned that the wagon handles a bit better in the corners since there's a better weight balance.</TD></TR></TABLE>This is just what I was thinking. Unless you truly live your life 1/4 mile at a time, the advantages of a wagon over sedan really do outweigh any true or perceived loss in 0-60 times. Take advantage of the fact that Volvo offers an athletic wagon <i>with a 6MT</i> - there aren't many auto makers that do this anymore.
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

Electric Silver 2006 V70R:<p><br> <IMG SRC="http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j230/Dashdog8/100_1522.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j230/Dashdog8/100_1524.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>
 

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In numbers the V is a lot slower compared to an S. Overall the V has better weight distribution and better brake balance but it doesn't feel as much "alive" as the S does.
 

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V70R vs. S60R speed depends on the driver! <p>My TiGray V70R was FAST at our track event on Tuesday, and a photo of it is here.<br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=63447" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=63447</A> <p>I even passed an S60R, so my wagon must be faster... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (needsdecaf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, the wagon is going to be a bit slower. But it's even rarer than the S60R! If you need the room, I highly recommend it. It's still a lot stinking faster than most cars out there!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The wagon with the MT is especially rare. Every other V70R I've come across has been a GT.<p>I love mine. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> Still wouldn't trade it for anything, considering my needs (3 little ones + their future educations). Except maybe a newer one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (Dj Schmidty)

According to the Volvo USA website, the V70R weighs 3689 lbs and the S60R weighs 3715 lbs. <p>I'm <i>very</i> skeptical of those numbers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> -- I'd guess the additional weight of the wagon at about 200 pounds - glass weighs a lot - but that's what the Volvo website says. <p>(Maybe it's the carbon-fiber roof and hood on the '07 V70s??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">)
 

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Re: Are Wagons generally slower that sedans?? (bill d cat)

That's backwards and still isn't right
 

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I don't know the numbers, BUT, if I had a dime for every time a wagon blew past me while I'm doing 100mph++ on the Autobahn, I'd be a friggin millionaire. This is not an exaggeration. In fact, it's become a running joke.
 

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Chip it and you'll rape any stock S out there. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>gary mtl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2006 has Instant Traction. It will not have as significant a bogg on start. It should feel a bit faster on some starts. If you time everything just right on previous models it should be equal. Anyway those were my impressions when driving both.<p>BTW the V has a trac more on the oversteer side than the S. But nothing dramatic. You can feel it though.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>there are ways to reduce bog <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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